343 has ruined Halo 4, how do I get a refund?

343 promised us Halo 4, and this is definitely not it. At most this game is 50% halo thanks to the campaign, but 50% CoD trash thanks to the multiplayer. 343 has destroyed Halo multiplayer which is the most important. Let me explain.

  • There are 26 weapons in multiplayer 13 of those being 1 shot weapons. The power weapons in this game are ridiculous. I have never been spawn killed so much by snipers and rockets in any other Halo game. Heavy weapons are like the plague, and if you didn’t make the rush to them first, you lose, the end. Same thing with the DMR, if you don’t get first shot you lose. They turned a strategy based shooter into, who has the fastest reflexes (aka what CoD is all about). What is the purpose of the recharging shield if you die in one hit almost every time?? Please explain. If you guys removed power weapons from half of the playlists then multiplayer might be acceptable.

  • Yes there are plenty of weapons to select, but what is the point if the only good weapons are the BR and DMR? I can’t use other weapons because they always get outgunned by the DMR/BR. Might as well remove the customization since nobody will be using any other weapons. Every playlist feels like SWAT, not sure why you guys even needed to add that playlist. And when its not those weapons, its a power weapon.

  • There are numerous bugs and glitches everywhere. Split Screen is broken with frame rate issues on big maps and small maps, and occurs frequently on Spartan Ops as well. Multiplayer maps have areas to get outside the map there are tons of youtube videos showing these

  • Weapons disappear almost instantly after they are dropped

  • Weapon indicators dont show up half the time

  • Checking downloadable content fails a majority of the time

  • Loadouts (and armor) get reset almost everytime the game is booted up

  • Online matchmaking has issues and playlists dissappear frequently

  • XP cap ruins leveling experience and makes Pioneer specialization useless

  • Specializations in general don’t make any sense. If you were to learn a new language, you would speak it a little at the start, then get better as you progress. So why would you unlock the perk at the end of the specialization??? The perk should be the first thing to be unlocked. When you learn how to drive a car, you learn a little about about road rules, but then you get in the car and start driving. You won’t be an expert right away, but you’ll get better as you go along. Understand?

This is just a basic list of things wrong with this game. These are basic things that should have been perfect. There is no excuse I have seen threads that are pages long explaining why you guys destroyed Halo 4, all of them legitimate. 343 did not test this game, they packaged it up knowing it was going to have issues. It’s wrong for you to treat the consumer like some sort of silly experiment while promising to deliver Halo 4.

Your consumers (the people who buy and play halo 4) know a ton about the game and the franchise. There should have been a public beta so that we could find these glitches and broken mechanics for you, so that when the game is released, it wouldn’t be what it is now.

I have bought every Halo since the first game, each limited edition, each xbox. I have played them since i was young, and I have always been there for the Halo franchise. I have been to every midnight release, and have been supportive of the series for as long as I can remember. When it came to Halo 4, I bought everything there was to be had. The xbox, triton headset, limited edition guide, limited edition game and soundtrack, everything. I easily wasted over $1000 for this game, and I was fooled. Well done 343, you’ve backstabbed one of your most loyal consumers. Yes you already have my money, but don’t expect to ever get a single dollar more until there is a title update fixing this mess of a game.

So i would like to know, how do I get a refund? I bought Halo 4 expecting it to be Halo 4, but it was not.

btw the campaign and soundtrack are both amazing, its just the multiplayer that you guys completely annihilated

Also you guys can troll me all you want, chances are if this game isn’t fixed, I wont be playing online or have to deal with Halo 4 players ever again. I tried so hard to like this game, but i was let down.

You get a refund by going back to the store and returning it. Duh!

If you really invested $1000 for halo 4 to just give up now… Then you should do so.

This is a good game. You need to find a good team. If not able to, just buckle up an learn the ropes. Don’t rush. Study the environment. After several matches. Took me MANY I understood the flow of the battle where the choke points are. Where people usually run to. This will give you edge.

This game is definitely still strategical. You said it yourself. Why shields if you die right away. This forces you to think and not play stupid. Since after your shields go down its one shot kill.

I traded in ALL my shooters for halo 4. Give it time. If not… Then it’s your $1000 jus quit.

I spent $300 on the triton & $100 on LE Halo 4

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TL DR VERSION

> RRAAGGGGEEEEE! BLLAMMMEEEE! RRAAGGEEEE!

you are complaining about spawn killing on halo 4

It was wayyy worse on Reach.

Send me me that headset, I would make good use of it :slight_smile:

I agree OP, it feels like the game was rushed in a lot of respects, Halo 4 would have been a much better game if they hadn’t jumped the gun. It should have been well polished and released in mid-late 2013.

Two sayings come to mind.

“A fool and his money are soon parted.”
And
“Caviat Emptor”

If you want a refund, only the retailer you purchased the items from will be able to help you. Though maybe next time, you’ll read the multitude of information that is released before a game before dropping a grand on it.

I honestly can not take your post seriously, nor bother reading the rest of it, because you’ve demanded for a refund, claiming it’s not Halo.

Jetpacks out of thread.

spawn killing in this game is no where near as bad as halo reach, and if you lose every single battle that you dont get the first shot in you must be bad.

Your post was semi interesting and you did bring up a lot of good points. On the other hand a lot of your points were just based on your skills. To say that you can’t out run or gun another rifle is, I hate to say, a lack of skill. I can’t even count how many times I have out gun a BR with an Assault rifle at a mid distant. Also CoD has been know to have an outstanding online play, although I am just as big (maybe bigger) halo fan then you, I give props where they are due. I do sometimes find myself lost in the “CoD” online play, but like others are saying its just time to evolve. The fast pace, run and gun, rockets flying, ghost flipping online play we are use to is still there; it not just has a little more “modern” look to it.

I don’t understand how a lot of people defend it by saying it’s more modern. To me “modern” game mechanics are to hold the player’s hand which I don’t like.

cmon buddy halo has always been about rushing to the power weapons or you lose, what are you trying to say? When was it ever different . Only problem with the other halos is that when you get a power weapon, you can just camp its location and kill everyone who comes and just get it again when it re-spawns. this game is not perfect, instant spawn should be a two second spawn and join in progress has got to go.
but don’t be complaining about power weapons and spawn kills when thats what previous halo strategy was all about.

> you are complaining about spawn killing on halo 4
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> It was wayyy worse on Reach.
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> Send me me that headset, I would make good use of it :slight_smile:

Oh man please dont bring up Reach spawn kills in reach.

> You get a refund by going back to the store and returning it. Duh!

Woah…seriously? Is it really that easy?

Are we getting trolled? This multiplayer feels like a beta, an unfinished version of the game, I mean c’mon 4 maps for an entire playlist!?! It just feels like a huge mess to me. I don’t know that’s my opinion, I just get the feeling 343 is -Yoinking!- with us hard.

TL;DR

Adapt.

Also, you’re not getting a refund, especially by saying “Wahh! I can’t handle change, because I’m a purist and any changes you guys make are a sin! 343, YOU OWE ME $60!!1!”

If you don’t like it, go back to whatever game you came from; we won’t miss you.

the op must be trolling…
i get spawn kill like ONCE every 100 full in-game play.
my light rifle pwns both the dmr and br.
the op is either trolling or just sucks.
i didn’t even bother finish reading the post because it sounds too exaggerated. never once did i experience all the complaints like the op. maybe a few minor tweaks here and there that needs adjustments, but this guy takes the cake.

There is no refund on these forums. Leave if you are unhappy.

Sometimes, I hate the mentality of the people towards artists. These guys made a masterpiece all of those years ago. Since then, their fans have demanded masterpiece after masterpiece. If only it was so easy to get it perfect every time. No matter what the devs do, there will always be someone to say that the previous one was better.

Think about it this way: How many paintings can you think of right now (without looking it up) that are by Leonardo Da Vinci? Now would you dare to compare 343 with Da Vinci?

They made a great game, both now and then. Just take them for what they are and if you don’t like it then just return it.

> TL;DR
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> Adapt.
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> Also, you’re not getting a refund, especially by saying “Wahh! I can’t handle change, because I’m a purist and any changes you guys make are a sin! 343, YOU OWE ME $60!!1!”
>
> If you don’t like it, go back to whatever game you came from; we won’t miss you.

It’s a collection of all the done-to-death, cliché, blind defenses of Halo 4 all in one!

And they said it was impossible…