I haven’t seen stinkles comment on gaf or anything. I can’t help but notice how there are things in the new game that was done deliberately to help out a camp mentality. The new completely invisible active cam function, the perk that lets you see your radar while scoped in, you don’t get hit out of scope anymore,etc. I don’t care what anyone says, this was done deliberate. I guess my question is, why do devs constantly piss on their own fanbase? I’ve spent the last year rolling my eyes at threads that were saying halo 4 is gonna suck or that it’s a cod rip, only to finally play it and be left with a mw2 vibe. (great core game, but has a lot of garbage that ruin the experience.) I’m at my total whits end on this. The only reason for allowing me to spawn with a weapon that acts like a mauler is so I can corner camp without actually having to pick up the weapon. Because so much was done to take the game play in a totally diff direction, i’m inclined to believe there will be no tweaks and that this is the new style of halo. Essentially a COD hypbrid where it takes more than a few bullets to kill you. Fileshare is still not up, there’s not theater for campaign OR spartan ops. This is without a doubt the sloppiest halo launch in history. Even more silly is the ad campaign and the fact that it’s the most exp xbox game ever.
They’re playing call of duty
they are doing damage control right now. trying to “fix” their game, and the longer it takes the more frustrated the community gets. wait until SE owners start hitting the rank cap, then its going to be a -Yoink- storm.
I hope they really are looking, but I don’t see it. Why would they spend so much energy pushing the game in one direction, then changing it back. As it stands, I don’t see myself playing this game by this time next year. I shouldn’t be feeling a longing for the pit or guardian when halo4 has hasn’t even been out for 2 weeks.
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you complained about game play but threw in the last tid bit out of spite, when you never mentioned how or why you would use file share. also you know nothing of the game developers intentions. especially since they are adding more content at will, Spartan ops ep 2 for example. also the entire lack of extraction in match making. so obviously they intend to add changed to the playlist in the near future. one more thing, every halo game since halo 2 (halo: CE PC also) had at least two major updates, we havent even got one and your current complain hasnt added neither constructive criticism, nor a vague solution. your just voicing your butt hurt.
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its just ad campaign money you never saw, why worry about a companies finances? oh wait its because you feel dirty for falling for there excellent ad campaign.
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you got owned by running gung ho into a bolt shot, when its lethal range is just slightly out of melee range. congrats, learn from it.
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not everyone uses awareness so they can use radar while scoped in. but this game has one thing that CoD doesnt, and thats lots of open terrain and lack of cover. you can shoot back with your weapon of choice, unless your weapon of choice is your fist. you can also use active camo to move up on said target. it works both ways depending on your method of use.
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the bolt shot is out ranged and out classes by both the shotgun and scatter shot. not to mention timing is require to apply this weapon.
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weapon drops still occur across the map, some of which enable you to quickly dispatch campers with sticky launchers, incendiary cannons, and more grenades, look around.
you complained about game play but threw in the last tid bit out of spite, when you never mentioned how or why you would use file share. also you know nothing of the game developers intentions. especially since they are adding more content at will, Spartan ops ep 2 for example. also the entire lack of extraction in match making. so obviously they intend to add changed to the playlist in the near future. one more thing, every halo game since halo 2 (halo: CE PC also) had at least two major updates, we havent even got one and your current complain hasnt added neither constructive criticism, nor a vague solution. your just voicing your butt hurt.
I believe I clearly stated things that are wrong or make for a stale experience. Please practice reading and comprehension.
2. its just ad campaign money you never saw, why worry about a companies finances? oh wait its because you feel dirty for falling for there excellent ad campaign.
Again, you need to learn how to understand the thoughts expressed in a sentence. I was speaking about how this is the most expensive video game MS has ever put out, yet there are all these problems with the sound cutting off or the fact that there is no theater mode outside of mp, or waypoint support for pics.
3. you got owned by running gung ho into a bolt shot, when its lethal range is just slightly out of melee range. congrats, learn from it.
Wrong again. This is always the response from people when you criticize a game. It’s always assumed “oh you suck so you don’t like it.”. I think it’s lame to be in a fight with someone, then when you pop their shields, they duck around the corner and take a knee. Naturally, if you sprint, then thruster back, you see the idiot jump out and waste his bolt shot. Also, the boltshot’s range is far outside the melee range. You sound just like the idiots in gears of war 3 who acted like the sawed off, didn’t gib people from well outside melee range. Just stop.
4. not everyone uses awareness so they can use radar while scoped in. but this game has one thing that CoD doesnt, and thats lots of open terrain and lack of cover. you can shoot back with your weapon of choice, unless your weapon of choice is your fist. you can also use active camo to move up on said target. it works both ways depending on your method of use.
right, there are only a few people using active cam/dmr/awareness mod in btb matches. Look, the kind of “strategy” you described, using active cam and “sneaking” up on people is something that is extremely slow and boring. It also breeds bad players. People see how easy it is to just sit invisible and ping people from their spawn, so they bring it to other gametypes like regicide. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve pulled a regicide on some idiot who was camping with active camo.
5. the bolt shot is out ranged and out classes by both the shotgun and scatter shot. not to mention timing is require to apply this weapon.
Again, stop pretending to be a moron. The difference is you cannot spawn with the scatter shot or the shotgun.
6. weapon drops still occur across the map, some of which enable you to quickly dispatch campers with sticky launchers, incendiary cannons, and more grenades, look around.
Ordinance makes for a pretty random battlefield. It used to be that you’d be cautious of a warthog run if the laser was up. If you knew it wasn’t, then it was go time. Now it’s random. You may hop in only to be arc’d, lasered, or incinerated. Oh, then there’s the thing where we can all spawn with stickies. It’s like every map is heretic now. Can’t tell you how many clowns have been dropped as they charged in throwing both stickies, while hoping the game wwould magnetize one to someone’s hip. If you love the game, thats fine, but don’t come here acting all condescending just because I’m stating things I think are wrong.
sorry, i’ve been wanting a sprint function and the ability to stay zoomed while shot for years, and were probably the only real complaints I’ve had with previous installments. i give 343 credit man, i was one of the bungie fanboy nawsayers, but i’ve been pleasantly surprised thus far. we’ll just have to see how it pans out in the long term
LOLZ, this guy up here saying that boltshot has less range than the shotgun and scattershot…WOWWWWW. Anyone who has been killed by one or has used one can attest that the boltshot is a little OP. Come on now.
Sprinting has done nothing but encourage people to run away the moment they get shot first and the lack of unzooming while taking damage makes sitting back way too easy.
Hopefully they’re working on features for forge or new playlists
stop. calm down.
I assume you still have the old halos in your collection, so please go play them and stop complaining about the BEST Halo game yet.
the only thing I agree with you about is them being quiet, and that is because they are too busy reading threads like this and fixing their game.
calm down.
> I hope they really are looking, but I don’t see it. Why would they spend so much energy pushing the game in one direction, then changing it back. As it stands, I don’t see myself playing this game by this time next year. I shouldn’t be feeling a <mark>longing for the pit</mark> or guardian when halo4 has hasn’t even been out for 2 weeks.
^I always have a longing for the Pit. Possibly my most favorite Halo map ever. 
> stop. calm down.
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> I assume you still have the old halos in your collection, so please go play them and stop complaining about the BEST Halo game yet.
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> the only thing I agree with you about is them being quiet, and that is because they are too busy reading threads like this and fixing their game.
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> calm down.
The best Halo? Yeah, sure.
Seriously this exactly how i am right now. I am tearing out my hair right now. 343 hasnt said ANYTHING regarding the massive amounts of problems this game is now facing. Does anyone remember how amazing this game was on launch day? All there was was mostly BR, mobility, and some DMRs. Now, A WEEEK AFTER THE GAME HAS LAUNCHED, ITS COMPLETE BROKEN TRASH. The loadout system has really done this game in, and thats not the only thing. The ordinance system is…hmmm how do i say this? ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. Random drops of random weapons on maps besides the initial spawns are just ridiculous. On maps like ragnarok there are at least 2 snipers PER TEAM. What the fk! It totally wrecks the flow of this game, its horrible. Also, getting a spartan laser on haven is the dumbest thing ive ever seen? Really? I weapon for suppressing and killing vehicles on a map dominated by plasma grenade spamming assault rifle kids? 343 really took WAY too many liberties with this game and its core gameplay. I used to be a naysayer at people who would express the opinion that these new features would ruin this game, and on launch day i still believed it had changed for the better. Now, a week after the launch, I threw down my controller and just quit. Broken maps, broken load outs, and to top it off a kill cam. Lmao. I hated when people said this was copying CoD but you know what? Look what it has become. You can use a magnum with infinite ammo when holding the flag (also, you cant drop it), kill cams, loadouts complete with game breaking perks, no zooming out when getting shot, horrible kill cam system, and the most camping ive ever seen in any halo game to date. This game completely denies players who have a higher skill level from winning and getting the kills that they deserve, and instead reward the noobs who sit in the back of the map with camo, explosives perk, DMR, and boltshot just spamming away…Im sick of it. You all should be sick of it to, because if 343 doesnt attempt to make any changes or fixes to the game as it is, its over. This is the beginning of the end for this trilogy of games. I really did have faith in this company, and now that is completely lost. Its funny, at the end of the campaign (i thought it was pretty damn good), they had a message that read something like “Thank you for trusting us with your universe”…yeah, im sorry but not anymore i dont. You have turned this game into a casual gamers dream, and completely disregarded the wishes of veteran players. Sorry, but St Slayer Pro doesnt it cut it AT ALL.
> sorry, i’ve been wanting a sprint function and the ability to stay zoomed while shot for years, and were probably the only real complaints I’ve had with previous installments. i give 343 credit man, i was one of the bungie fanboy nawsayers, but i’ve been pleasantly surprised thus far. we’ll just have to see how it pans out in the long term
I like sprint, I like loadouts, I even like some of the AAs. Active cam, HLS, and jetpack change the nature of the game imo. I also like some of the perks. Not all, but just some.
Want to know something funny? Back to when the Waypoint forums were brand new, 343i were posting on a regular basis. That was when the community were actually pretty decent. With how the community is these days, I’m not surprised that 343i don’t post here. I wouldn’t be surprised if I discovered that they didn’t even visit these forums at all, to be honest.
Some of the people on here cannot understand the true difference between “getting off the game and playing the old halo games” choice and “playing Halo 4 even though you don’t like it but you hate it.” I’ve seen people do the second choice but not the first because they are impatient. If you give them patience (343i otherwise) and leave Halo 4 and come back later, you would see a huge major difference within the game that probably what you wanted. Stop your incompetent moaning because 343 Industries gave you a perfectly good Halo 4 videogame, a Forward Unto Dawn 5 part movie, a variety of concerts, and other Halo related things but do they really want the outcome for them from the fans to be various ranting and -Yoinking!-?
C’mon guys. I thought you were better.
Well you see, op, Halo 4 just came out. You want them here comforting you or hard at work fixing bugs and glitches?
> Seriously this exactly how i am right now. I am tearing out my hair right now. 343 hasnt said ANYTHING regarding the massive amounts of problems this game is now facing. Does anyone remember how amazing this game was on launch day? All there was was mostly BR, mobility, and some DMRs. Now, A WEEEK AFTER THE GAME HAS LAUNCHED, ITS COMPLETE BROKEN TRASH. The loadout system has really done this game in, and thats not the only thing. The ordinance system is…hmmm how do i say this? ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. Random drops of random weapons on maps besides the initial spawns are just ridiculous. On maps like ragnarok there are at least 2 snipers PER TEAM. What the fk! It totally wrecks the flow of this game, its horrible. Also, getting a spartan laser on haven is the dumbest thing ive ever seen? Really? I weapon for suppressing and killing vehicles on a map dominated by plasma grenade spamming assault rifle kids? 343 really took WAY too many liberties with this game and its core gameplay. I used to be a naysayer at people who would express the opinion that these new features would ruin this game, and on launch day i still believed it had changed for the better. Now, a week after the launch, I threw down my controller and just quit. Broken maps, broken load outs, and to top it off a kill cam. Lmao. I hated when people said this was copying CoD but you know what? Look what it has become. You can use a magnum with infinite ammo when holding the flag (also, you cant drop it), kill cams, loadouts complete with game breaking perks, no zooming out when getting shot, horrible kill cam system, and the most camping ive ever seen in any halo game to date. This game completely denies players who have a higher skill level from winning and getting the kills that they deserve, and instead reward the noobs who sit in the back of the map with camo, explosives perk, DMR, and boltshot just spamming away…Im sick of it. You all should be sick of it to, because if 343 doesnt attempt to make any changes or fixes to the game as it is, its over. This is the beginning of the end for this trilogy of games. I really did have faith in this company, and now that is completely lost. Its funny, at the end of the campaign (i thought it was pretty damn good), they had a message that read something like “Thank you for trusting us with your universe”…yeah, im sorry but not anymore i dont. You have turned this game into a casual gamers dream, and completely disregarded the wishes of veteran players. Sorry, but St Slayer Pro doesnt it cut it AT ALL.
Broken maps? Hah, the maps are perfect. It’s just that people (who are -Yoinks!- that don’t deserve to play but cheat) love to search around in order to cheat their way on winning the map or exploiting their way to ruining other peoples entertainment. 343 Industries will get on this soon like every other company that patches their game. Ain’t left in the cold.
Broken loadouts? After many matches of kicking Spartan -Yoink-, I didn’t find anything regarding broken loadouts what so ever. Probably your eyes… or something.
Killcams are used to your advantage. It shows you where the enemy is and how the enemy killed you which makes you do some planning and strategy on how to take revenge on said enemy. Just like Call of Duty, the killcams act way different than through the enemy’s eyes.
Holding the flag without dropping is what I like to say “going for the objective” instead of dropping it every time you get hit. Back in the days, you thought that spartans are strong and brave so they should be able to carry a flag one-handed right with a magnum in order to defend themselves? That’s what I thought but maybe you didn’t. Anyways, 343i did this IMO because individuals sometimes didn’t bring it to the team site and just left it in the battlefield in order to score kills.
Halo 4 has changed alot. Don’t expect the same things over and over because every videogame has it’s differences, sometimes you don’t like that naturally suit the videogame itself. 343 Industries has gave us a perfectly good videogame and is still listening to the community but have gone dark for the moment for doing something in their studios (y’ know, things)
There is two theories that I have come into conclusion. Firstly when they made the game, they previously or at the same time, played CoD while being high and on the top of that made the game. My more likely theory is that the designer team actually consisted of apes that were trained to do their work.
> Well you see, op, Halo 4 just came out. You want them here comforting you or hard at work fixing bugs and glitches?
They can do both. You know, provide updates etc.