343 Fix Search Parameters: Teams vs Teams

I know we have all been on both ends of this issue. You have either had to get a full lobby to have fun or you had to get punished for playing alone. This game needs better matching based on “Party size and skill”. The game would be way more enjoyable for small fireteams and for large ones who get bored stomping the not so good players.

343i has to do something about this. I mean every day i see more posts about people wanting this change and it would make the game so much better. Think of how many people stopped playing because they keep facing teams and not facing people within the same skill or party size.

I swear this is the only halo game that has had this issue. So please 343i do something about this.

What do you guys think?

Agreed!!!

They should at least do what some CoD games did with the “mercenary” team death match playlists which meant no parties were allowed, that was good.

Yeah definitely

Solo players should never be put against teams in a competitive setting

If anything there should be 2 rankings 1 is your ranking playing solo with randoms and the other your rank when playing with a team

So the lobbies are completely separate and never cross over

Warzone needs this too to prevent team strategies against teams of randoms not working together

You also need to look at it from the other side too. Not every fireteam is a ‘team.’ So you’d be condemning people who just want to play a match with 1 or two friends to facing actual teams.

A better solution would be to just implement a lone wolf playlist for all the people that prefer to solo queue.

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> You also need to look at it from the other side too. Not every fireteam is a ‘team.’ So you’d be condemning people who just want to play a match with 1 or two friends to facing actual teams.
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> A better solution would be to just implement a lone wolf playlist for all the people that prefer to solo queue.

It’s a competitive playlist. Uneven matches completely undermine the value of the ranking system and ruin the solo experience. It’s not “condemning” anyone. It’s making the competition more fair. If you go in with a team that isn’t a team, whatever that means, you should be facing other teams, whether or not they are “teams.” A team of 4 should not be matching a team of three and a random. They should be matching a team of 4.

If you want to play casually with 1 or two friends, that would be what actual social playlists and even doubles are for. Of course, neither of those are in the game, which seems to be the actual problem you’re referring to. Lack of party restrictions solves no problems except, perhaps, making it easier to find faster matches with a dwindling population.

I think matching teams against teams is necessary.

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> I think matching teams against teams is necessary.

i think lots will agree :wink:

Yes… my god full fireteams should be matched with another full fireteam. Although in some cases, I’ve been on warzone teams where I was a solo player paired with an 11 man fireteam, and they still lost which was pretty dumb. I tried helping but oh wells LOL

More playlists will dilute the population per playlist even more. They’ll add lone wolf PL, then everyone complains when your a plat mathcing diamonds/onyx because there aren’t enough poeple in the playlist.

There are preventative measures in place in the ranking system for solo players. If you finish top 2 on a losing team, you lose less csr then the bottom 2 and vice versa for winning. Searching solo doesn’t determine your rank, your skill does regardless of who is on the other team. People solo que to onyx/champ all the time.

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> I swear this is the only halo game that has had this issue. So please 343i do something about this.

I believe Halo 4 did it as well. Surprise surprise, the other 343 game. They may not make great match making, but hey, they can add a giant fish swimming around the outside of the map you’re playing on. So yeah, thats important

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> > 2661949065475413;5:
> > You also need to look at it from the other side too. Not every fireteam is a ‘team.’ So you’d be condemning people who just want to play a match with 1 or two friends to facing actual teams.
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> > A better solution would be to just implement a lone wolf playlist for all the people that prefer to solo queue.
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> It’s a competitive playlist. Uneven matches completely undermine the value of the ranking system and ruin the solo experience. It’s not “condemning” anyone. It’s making the competition more fair. If you go in with a team that isn’t a team, whatever that means, you should be facing other teams, whether or not they are “teams.” A team of 4 should not be matching a team of three and a random. They should be matching a team of 4.
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> If you want to play casually with 1 or two friends, that would be what actual social playlists and even doubles are for. Of course, neither of those are in the game, which seems to be the actual problem you’re referring to. Lack of party restrictions solves no problems except, perhaps, making it easier to find faster matches with a dwindling population.

So teams of 4 only match teams of 4? Easy loophole, drop a player and go as a 3 man fireteam and carry a randy. 3 man team can still easily pubstomping 4 randys and boost csr.

What then? Teams of 3 vs teams of 3? Still throws a solo player against a premade.

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> I know we have all been on both ends of this issue. You have either had to get a full lobby to have fun or you had to get punished for playing alone. This game needs better matching based on “Party size and skill”. The game would be way more enjoyable for small fireteams and for large ones who get bored stomping the not so good players.
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> 343i has to do something about this. I mean every day i see more posts about people wanting this change and it would make the game so much better. Think of how many people stopped playing because they keep facing teams and not facing people within the same skill or party size.
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> I swear this is the only halo game that has had this issue. So please 343i do something about this.
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> What do you guys think?

never understood this post, you are playing a team orianted game… there have been solo vs premade since halo 2. why is it the all of a sudden it is such a big deal now??? call of duty has something for solo players, and guess what… no body plays that gamemode