Reach is a skid mark on the franchise which is Halo. Mostly the player versus player balance, which happens to be the highlight of Halo.
Don’t make the next “that” game…
Another Reach Fails story…
Win 8 games in a row. Lose 1, get 26,000Cr jackpot.
Oh Reach…
> squid mark
Squid mark? Lol.
I agree though.
so they want to make the “it” game but not “that” game…
…what if they just make “their” game?
Reach hate in the Halo 4 section is so cute, don’t you think?
I know right? The vocal minority who still hates it can’t seem to keep that hate at bay, its a little bit disturbing.
Luckily, i won’t be playing with a majority of you who already give this game an -F
Your experience is ruined, but not mine. At least i hope that 343 does right by Halo, some things i am not so sure about but we’ll see.
Give me that time travel machine, not some random who’s best idea of a thread is Halo4/COD bashing.
Man, Reach is such an awesome game. We should all go and play it right now!
> Man, Reach is such an awesome game. We should all go and play it right now!
I don’t like Living Dead much :s
> Man, Pac-Man is such an awesome game. We should all go and play it right now!
Fix’d. That was (and still is) awesome game that we should be playing right now.
Highest scores > Credits
> Man, Reach is such an awesome game. We should all go and play it right now!
I agree, Reach is an awesome game. I just find it sad how many people bash it.
> Give me that time travel machine, not some random who’s best idea of a thread is Halo4/COD bashing.
People are open to discussing the good aspects of Halo 4 but anyone really vocal as to what they dislike is instantly bashed. People that have been playing since the beginning have good reason to be upset, especially since a large amount of the supporters started playing with Reach. People who try to maturely try to debate the validity of calling Halo 4 a good game shouldn’t be instantly bashed and deemed a troll. This forum should be just a much a place for people to voice their disgust as it is for people to worship it, especially since a lot of the negative crowd has been around longer then the positive one. Halo tenure doesn’t necessary give anyone more of a right over their opinion then others but it does give a perspective that the newer gamers can’t relate to.
> People are open to discussing the good aspects of Halo 4 but anyone really vocal as to what they dislike is instantly bashed. People that have been playing since the beginning have good reason to be upset, especially since a large amount of the supporters started playing with Reach. People who try to maturely try to debate the validity of calling Halo 4 a good game shouldn’t be instantly bashed and deemed a troll. This forum should be just a much a place for people to voice their disgust as it is for people to worship it, especially since a lot of the negative crowd has been around longer then the positive one.
There should be no worship or disgust in the first place. None of us have an actual basis for a real argument against or for the game at this point, because none of us have actually played the game. So please people, before you go on and on about how much you hate the game for a specific reason, think for a second, move your hands away from the keyboard, and wait for another 7 months until the game comes out to spew your opinions.
> > Give me that time travel machine, not some random who’s best idea of a thread is Halo4/COD bashing.
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> People are open to discussing the good aspects of Halo 4 but anyone really vocal as to what they dislike is instantly bashed. People that have been playing since the beginning have good reason to be upset, especially since a large amount of the supporters started playing with Reach. People who try to maturely try to debate the validity of calling Halo 4 a good game shouldn’t be instantly bashed and deemed a troll. This forum should be just a much a place for people to voice their disgust as it is for people to worship it, especially since a lot of the negative crowd has been around longer then the positive one. Halo tenure doesn’t necessary give anyone more of a right over their opinion then others but it does give a perspective that the newer gamers can’t relate to.
My problem doesn’t lie with those who criticizing Halo 4 maturely. My point is against those who do the opposite of that. Nothing more.
> > People are open to discussing the good aspects of Halo 4 but anyone really vocal as to what they dislike is instantly bashed. People that have been playing since the beginning have good reason to be upset, especially since a large amount of the supporters started playing with Reach. People who try to maturely try to debate the validity of calling Halo 4 a good game shouldn’t be instantly bashed and deemed a troll. This forum should be just a much a place for people to voice their disgust as it is for people to worship it, especially since a lot of the negative crowd has been around longer then the positive one.
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> There should be no worship or disgust in the first place. None of us have an actual basis for a real argument against or for the game at this point, because none of us have actually played the game. So please people, before you go on and on about how much you hate the game for a specific reason, think for a second, move your hands away from the keyboard, and wait for another 7 months until the game comes out to spew your opinions.
You have to go by what you see, if more info is released, or the game comes out it’s then when your opinion can change. You can’t heavily change the finished project so before it’s released is when you should voice your opinion while you still have your vote. It’s kind of like saying don’t vote for the president to see who you get and what they do, then you can judge them, it doesn’t make much sense. I’m disgusted by what I’ve seen by Halo 4 thus far, will I change my opinion? Most likely not, because those features will be there and I’ve already got a good idea of what I don’t like, is it possible? Yes, but when the game is out I won’t be able to make a difference, and the discussing of it will be rather pointless by then.
> > > Give me that time travel machine, not some random who’s best idea of a thread is Halo4/COD bashing.
> >
> > People are open to discussing the good aspects of Halo 4 but anyone really vocal as to what they dislike is instantly bashed. People that have been playing since the beginning have good reason to be upset, especially since a large amount of the supporters started playing with Reach. People who try to maturely try to debate the validity of calling Halo 4 a good game shouldn’t be instantly bashed and deemed a troll. This forum should be just a much a place for people to voice their disgust as it is for people to worship it, especially since a lot of the negative crowd has been around longer then the positive one. Halo tenure doesn’t necessary give anyone more of a right over their opinion then others but it does give a perspective that the newer gamers can’t relate to.
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> My problem doesn’t lie with those who criticizing Halo 4 maturely. My point is against those who do the opposite of that. Nothing more.
I had a thread where I voiced my opinion on the game, little criticizing of others for there opinions and at the end of the post I put that it was my opinion and not to take it too seriously, what did I get? Quite a bit of bashing for claiming Reach was a bad game and that Halo 4 would be as well. Naturally, I retaliated, and bashed back.
I will however admit that I do like to have my fun in some threads.
> You have to go by what you see, if more info is released, or the game comes out it’s then when your opinion can change. You can’t heavily change the finished project so before it’s released is when you should voice your opinion while you still have your vote. It’s kind of like saying don’t vote for the president to see who you get and what they do, then you can judge them, it doesn’t make much sense. I’m disgusted by what I’ve seen by Halo 4 thus far, will I change my opinion? Most likely not, because those features will be there and I’ve already got a good idea of what I don’t like, is it possible? Yes, but when the game is out I won’t be able to make a difference, and the discussing of it will be rather pointless by then.
That is completely irrational. Especially at this point, considering just how little information has been released, and how much time there is before the game comes out. Assuming a particular feature will play a certain way, without actually playing it is completely ridiculous. All the speculation and rumor and stupidity flying about on this forum is all a result of the useless opinions of those who have no basis for said opinions.
> That is completely irrational. Especially at this point, considering just how little information has been released, and how much time there is before the game comes out. Assuming a particular feature will play a certain way, without actually playing it is completely ridiculous. All the speculation and rumor and stupidity flying about on this forum is all a result of the useless opinions of those who have no basis for said opinions.
No basis? We have a game full of them, Reach. Yes Halo 4 will be different but it has also been shown that it will bring back a lot of the same stuff (problems in my opinion) as Reach did. I already have basis off of that game, those same features may vary from the last game in how they are implemented but they will be similar to some degree, and most likely very similar. It’s irrational not to voice your hate for said features, and new features alike. A lot of the stuff H4 is bringing to the table has been done before, in either the same or different ways, it doesn’t take much imagination to see how that might play out. Could it be different? Yes, but we have to go by what we see just like how we go by what we see in the president during the elections to base our vote off of, Barrack Obama turned out to be quite different then what he claimed before becoming the president. It may turn out to be bad or good no matter the vote but you should use it while you can, seems to me you’re voting yes. Your views seem to be the irrational ones as you can’t depict, imagine, or make an educated guess of what you’ve been given. If you live in America, are 18+, and don’t use your right to vote then you have bigger problems then Halo, your opinions now seem to be that of the opposite of an intelligent person who uses that right (although not all voters are intelligent, a good portion actually), and more of the ones who don’t.
This isn’t a presidential election, so stop trying to compare it to one, the similarities are almost non-existent.
You are right, there are some features of the game we have seen in Reach before. So we can ASSUME that they will be the same in Halo 4 and base our opinions off of that ASSUMPTION, but in the process we ASSUME that said feature will be exactly the same, which we have no way of knowing. We can ASSUME that the features that are similar to those of COD games are going to work the same way in Halo 4 that they do in COD, therefore we can base our opinions of Halo 4 off of that ASSUMPTION as well. But in either case, those assumptions are completely irrelavent because there is no way for any of us to know at this point whether or not our ASSUMPTIONS are actually correct, or whether they are not. Thus it is stupid as hell at this point to continue to make said assumptions over and over again, clouding forums like this and many others with them, pushing away the actually useful threads, and generally muddying all the information that is displayed. I can depict, imagine, and make an educated guess based on the information they have released so far, but there is a very good chance that it will be wrong. Therefore I DON’T POST THE OPINIONS AND GUESSES I MAKE.
If everyone here would reserve their opinions until they have some serious, reliable, and credible sources, that are not subject to change at any time(unlike all the information that is out at the moment) these forums and the community would be alot better off for it.
Also, thank you for the personal attack at the end of your post, it really helps to show off just what you consider to be intelligent conversation. I am in fact and American, who is older than 18 years, and who has voted regularly in every election.
> Reach is a squid mark
And just like that…I can’t take you seriously.
> This isn’t a presidential election, so stop trying to compare it to one, the similarities are almost non-existent.
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> You are right, there are some features of the game we have seen in Reach before. So we can ASSUME that they will be the same in Halo 4 and base our opinions off of that ASSUMPTION, but in the process we ASSUME that said feature will be exactly the same, which we have no way of knowing. We can ASSUME that the features that are similar to those of COD games are going to work the same way in Halo 4 that they do in COD, therefore we can base our opinions of Halo 4 off of that ASSUMPTION as well. But in either case, those assumptions are completely irrelavent because there is no way for any of us to know at this point whether or not our ASSUMPTIONS are actually correct, or whether they are not. Thus it is stupid as hell at this point to continue to make said assumptions over and over again, clouding forums like this and many others with them, pushing away the actually useful threads, and generally muddying all the information that is displayed. I can depict, imagine, and make an educated guess based on the information they have released so far, but there is a very good chance that it will be wrong. Therefore I DON’T POST THE OPINIONS AND GUESSES I MAKE.
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> If everyone here would reserve their opinions until they have some serious, reliable, and credible sources, that are not subject to change at any time(unlike all the information that is out at the moment) these forums and the community would be alot better off for it.
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> Also, thank you for the personal attack at the end of your post, it really helps to show off just what you consider to be intelligent conversation. I am in fact and American, who is older than 18 years, and who has voted regularly in every election.
When you can understand that you can use analogies in unrelated conversations only then should you be allowed to be taken seriously in an argument. Having a certificate in game design and a current student for computer science I know that feedback can be crucial for a game, especially a game as big as Halo, if you want to sit here and blissfully talk about things you have to be optimistic, go ahead. Games need feedback about past titles, AS WELL as what’s been given so far so they can develop in the right direction. Your way of going about it could drastically compromise a game in the right situation, with the right developers. My analogy made perfect sense.
It wasn’t a personal attack, I said you could be unintelligent, could. Perhaps that wasn’t the right word for the situation, but at the same time it may have been to some degree, you allow strange ideals to cloud your judgement. Besides, you choose what you’re offended by so it’s relative.
Roosevelt: “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent”.
You have just has much right to give your good opinions on the game as others bad, it’s hypocritical to say otherwise as you would be making good assumptions on the work in progress. Every day humans do what you’re saying is irrational, just as my presidential analogy, or anything in daily life, every time someone makes a first impression on you, and in all different aspects in life.
I will probably stop arguing after this, if you haven’t changed your mind by now you never will. We might as well agree to disagree.
> Another Reach Fails story…
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> Win 8 games in a row. Lose 1, get 26,000Cr jackpot.
>
> Oh Reach…