When people say that 343 ruined halo they are over exaggerating just a bit. I’ve been a fan since CE and I’ve seen halo at its best and it’s worst. And I gotta say, 343 did a pretty good job with halo 5 multiplayer. It isn’t codified by any means, just because it has sprint and ads (which is just a zoom in feature) doesn’t mean it’s codified, you can still dominate the match without using the special abilities. They brought balance back to multiplayer and map control, reach is my personal favorite halo but I can’t deny that it had balancing issues. Halo 5 is the most balanced halo since 3!(in arena mode) And now that they are adding free dlc into halo 5 it just makes me happy. However, 343 still needs to step up their game in order for their halos to match up to the originals.
•they need a better writer for the story
•343 needs to remove the microtrasactions
•they should make a playlist that disables sprint and thrusters
•make better looking armor design
I like some of the armor in 4 and 5 they are extremely detailed, but detail can also lead to pure ugliness
•continue to support the MCC and fix all of its problems
If 343 can do these than I assure you we got ourselves true halo developers. But until that faithful day, thanks for taking the time to read this post
343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
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> 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
If they were to do the 2/3 formula before they would’ve gotten hate for not innovating.
They didn’t ruin halo as long as halo 6 goes back to more of a halo feel and less of a call of duty feel… Halo 5 is a lost cause though. The game was great without sprint, jet packs, all this nonsense… I bought the Xbox one last Friday specifically for halo and I am really dissapointed… halo is my favorite game of all time and this just doesn’t feel like it at all… I’m not trying to be a complete 323 hater but it really seems like they copied a lot off of call of duty instead of sticking to the halo roots and now a lot of oldschool halo fans are not happy with the results… I hope the next halo is back to normal.
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> > 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
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> If they were to do the 2/3 formula before they would’ve gotten hate for not innovating.
I would play it more if it followed the old halo ways. I play it once in a while at most and I haven’t even finished the campaign… i would have praised 343 if they did a evolved halo 2 or 3. But no they betrayed classic fans again… I WANT to praise 343 but they give me every reason not to.
look at how many hours and games I put into halo 4 and 5 vs 2 3 and reach…
IMO the participation trophy society we live in, not 343, is halo’s problem. What I mean is most gamers today want a lot with little effort. They want to feel badass without actually doing anything badass. Part of the reason Cod and Destiny are extremely popular. Players would rather press a button for an airstrike triple kill or play crucible where you can go 1-17 and “earn” the best gun in the game. Majority of gamers don’t want to create the “oh snap” experience. They’d rather the game create it for them, if that makes any sense. Imo this is halo’s biggest problem. Halo 2.5 or 3.5 could have dropped in place of halo 5 and we’d still see a population problem. Now 343 didn’t help themselves by not adding a social playlist and forge at launch. This most definitely would have helped. I just don’t think halo’s (2-3) glory days will ever be back. No matter the developer or game mechanics. Again, just my opinion. “takes off tin-foil hat”
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> 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
Hey, the game is equal starts again with no stupid ordinance. If abilities that everyone had was the compromise, I’m alright.
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> > 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
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> Hey, the game is equal starts again with no stupid ordinance. If abilities that everyone had was the compromise, I’m alright.
You mean gimmicks? Spartan charge is incredibly noob friendly. Sprint I can see as a power up like overshield or active camo. Clamber and ground pound have no logic being in the game. Skill jumps are non existent… Ground pound is straight up call of duty copy and paste
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> > 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
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> If they were to do the 2/3 formula before they would’ve gotten hate for not innovating.
no matter what 343 does someone will hate them, i almost pity them
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> Please don’t ban me snickerdoodle
The fact that you even had to state this says something about the mods on this site, don’t you think?
But yes, I do agree with everything you’ve mentioned. Halo 5 is really lacking right now so if 343 would take some fan feedback into consideration more than they already do, that would be great. It’s nice to see a thoughtful post instead of blind hatred for once.
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> > > 343 needs to stop trying to completely re do the formula… BUILD ON THE EXISTING HALO 2/3 FORMULA. Notice halo 2 or 3 lacking gimmicks are a big factor…
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> no matter what 343 does someone will hate them, i almost pity them
Not true in the slightest. When a good game is made that stays faithful to the series I give it praise. I don’t blindly love a game just because it’s part of a series I like. I have standards and halo 5 is not up there.
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> They didn’t ruin halo as long as halo 6 goes back to more of a halo feel and less of a call of duty feel… Halo 5 is a lost cause though. The game was great without sprint, jet packs, all this nonsense… I bought the Xbox one last Friday specifically for halo and I am really dissapointed… halo is my favorite game of all time and this just doesn’t feel like it at all… I’m not trying to be a complete 323 hater but it really seems like they copied a lot off of call of duty instead of sticking to the halo roots and now a lot of oldschool halo fans are not happy with the results… I hope the next halo is back to normal.
You DO realise that CoD stole MANY things from Halo right? It was CoD trying to be like Halo. Remember when Halo was THE fps shooter that stood out far from the rest? Because it was new, innovating?
Stop trying to go back to H2-H3 style. It won’t happen, end of. You expect after 3 games with thrusters/sprint that they go back to the slow paced game? No offence, I’ve destroyed every Halo game, gameplay wise. Every game had their own great aspects, but no way that you’re going to tell me that a super 7 feet soldier is not able to sprint or clamber. These things made Halo 5 one of the best multiplayer games up to date. The game is balanced, weapons are balanced. I can’t name anything gameplay wise that should be different.
Halo 6 will only evolve further and won’t go back to the days, get over it.
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> > They didn’t ruin halo as long as halo 6 goes back to more of a halo feel and less of a call of duty feel… Halo 5 is a lost cause though. The game was great without sprint, jet packs, all this nonsense… I bought the Xbox one last Friday specifically for halo and I am really dissapointed… halo is my favorite game of all time and this just doesn’t feel like it at all… I’m not trying to be a complete 323 hater but it really seems like they copied a lot off of call of duty instead of sticking to the halo roots and now a lot of oldschool halo fans are not happy with the results… I hope the next halo is back to normal.
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> You DO realise that CoD stole MANY things from Halo right? It was CoD trying to be like Halo. Remember when Halo was THE fps shooter that stood out far from the rest? Because it was new, innovating?
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> Stop trying to go back to H2-H3 style. It won’t happen, end of. You expect after 3 games with thrusters/sprint that they go back to the slow paced game? No offence, I’ve destroyed every Halo game, gameplay wise. Every game had their own great aspects, but no way that you’re going to tell me that a super 7 feet soldier is not able to sprint or clamber. These things made Halo 5 one of the best multiplayer games up to date. The game is balanced, weapons are balanced. I can’t name anything gameplay wise that should be different.
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> Halo 6 will only evolve further and won’t go back to the days, get over it.
and shed even more classic fans? are you sure that a good idea?
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> > > They didn’t ruin halo as long as halo 6 goes back to more of a halo feel and less of a call of duty feel… Halo 5 is a lost cause though. The game was great without sprint, jet packs, all this nonsense… I bought the Xbox one last Friday specifically for halo and I am really dissapointed… halo is my favorite game of all time and this just doesn’t feel like it at all… I’m not trying to be a complete 323 hater but it really seems like they copied a lot off of call of duty instead of sticking to the halo roots and now a lot of oldschool halo fans are not happy with the results… I hope the next halo is back to normal.
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> > Stop trying to go back to H2-H3 style. It won’t happen, end of. You expect after 3 games with thrusters/sprint that they go back to the slow paced game? No offence, I’ve destroyed every Halo game, gameplay wise. Every game had their own great aspects, but no way that you’re going to tell me that a super 7 feet soldier is not able to sprint or clamber. These things made Halo 5 one of the best multiplayer games up to date. The game is balanced, weapons are balanced. I can’t name anything gameplay wise that should be different.
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> and shed even more classic fans? are you sure that a good idea?
I’m pretty sure that you won’t hear anybody complain who loves halo 4, that halo 5 is terrible. Same goes for Halo 6. The same players from 4 will go for halo 6 after they’re done with Halo 5. Trust me, even if 200k people are left in the Halo scene, they will still enjoy Halo for what it is.
Honestly, as long as they put more effort in Halo’s story I’m a happy customer (I’m a sucker for a good story). And lately it feels like the quality in their stories have been decreasing lately.
Matchmaking wise I think they’re solid, although not sure why they felt the need to launch Halo 5 with the bare minimum amounts of maps and gametypes. Not sure about this “sustain” plan they have with releasing free stuff every months. Maybe if they had some of this stuff from the start they wouldn’t need to try to sustain the playerbase? Idk, just my two bits.
> You DO realise that CoD stole MANY things from Halo right?
Why do people keep saying this? The only thing CoD arguably stole from Halo was recharging health.
> If they were to do the 2/3 formula before they would’ve gotten hate for not innovating.
What is so innovative about sprint and clamber? Should also point out that truly innovative games aren’t making the list of xbox one top sellers…
Aside from that though, you’re implying you can’t stay true to the Halo formula and innovate at the same time. I mean some people loved equipment and some absolutely despised it, but I doubt anyone was all “THIS ISN’T HALO ANYMORE”.
> Not sure about this “sustain” plan they have with releasing free stuff every months. Maybe if they had some of this stuff from the start they wouldn’t need to try to sustain the playerbase? Idk, just my two bits.
The slowpaced gameplay may not be interesting to new players after all the other games available are much faster. They may find it very annoying. I think 343 has put a thought in it, that’s why the change. Whatever they do, somebody will rip their pants over it.
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> The slowpaced gameplay may not be interesting to new players after all the other games available are much faster. They may find it very annoying. I think 343 has put a thought in it, that’s why the change. Whatever they do, somebody will rip their pants over it.
I switched to MCC the other day and the game is sooooo slow. I just don’t enjoy it anymore like I used to.