There are generally good complaints. Complaints that are generally well thought out and supply actually facts and what not can dramatically improve the game. But there are plenty of ones that are bad or unreasonable as well. The problem is weeding out the worthless trash so we can actually have the important ones get addressed.
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Good point. The development length has been debated among fans and 343 PR, regardless the the game is still in a lackluster state that only a fanboy like myself can enjoy. It’s safe to say I wont be rep-ing the Tenrai shirts like Staten.
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Idk man it was pretty disrespectful for them to remove things no one asked for and not work On major things that have been asked for the last 6 months……
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So far season 2 has been worse than season 1 in my view. I don’t like most of the changes they have made. Now granted, challenges have been forcing me to almost exclusively play LSS which is probably tarnishing my opinion, but here are a few things I believe are worse than season 1.
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LSS is a genuinely awful non halo experience. Now I wouldn’t care if I wasn’t being forced to play it. Surely more content can’t make the game worse! But it does when I am siloed in to it to complete my battle pass, event pass and weekly.
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Adding BR Slayer to the social team slayer playlist. Completely unnecessary when there is a dedicated playlist of BR starts in ranked. This has reduced our playlist variety, not increased it.
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Melee nerf. Attempting to fix one weapon by damaging the entire sandbox. In my view the mangler is not even fixed, it is now useless and will be left to rust on weapon pads
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Bugs, glitches, freezing. BR is now glitched. Games keep getting stuck on a loading cycle for me. High ping in matches. Desync still there
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I don’t like attrition, but it has been added to quick play in place of strongholds. I don’t think attrition is a normal halo experience, and I don’t like it being in the cycle in the most popular playlist in place of what was a good mode.
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Challenges. I had hoped they would do something to fix challenges this season to allow the player a bit more choice of what they want to play. No. They are even more siloed than before, taking away player choice.
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Breaker. Haven’t had a chance to play BTB on this map yet (due to the challenges point above), but LSS plays like trash on this map
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KOTH - glad it’s been added but once again they’ve taken something that didn’t need fixed and messed about with it. I don’t like the point scoring, I wanted real KOTH
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Behemoth BRs - who decided to add this back in to rotation after it was removed from ranked in s1 due to backlash. It plays terribly
Overall I think that all season 2 has done is dilute the content I loved with stuff that I don’t want to play, and made tweaks to hurt a well balanced sandbox. LSS is genuinely the worst halo game mode I have ever played, I don’t want to play it, but I’m being forced to. Season 1s lack of content annoyed me, but never made me want to quit the game. This LSS stuff does. Looking ahead and realising that for 6 months my challenges are going to be full of LSS that I cannot avoid just fills me with frustration. Some people like it, great, have your fun. But 343s challenge system is ruining player choice
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look on the bright side there isa new modern warfare coming out this year, an i’m gonna play the hell out of it over this pile of poo
Too many users are overdramatic. It’s complete extremity.
“343 does nothing right, the game is dying, it’s awful. Uninstall.”
Like why even bother coming here if you feel they can do no good and have been incapable for multiple games? You’ll never be happy. So move on. The extremist viewpoint is bizarre. Or they complain then play every day, do they love being unhappy?
I didn’t like Halo 4 MP so I didn’t play it. I didn’t like Halo 5 MP at launch so I didn’t play it until they updated it. I didn’t like Halo MCC at launch so I didn’t play it until they updated it. I didn’t post on the forums about it. I just left silently and checked in every year or so.
Halo Infinite I really like and enjoy. I think it’s their best work for a balance of what I like about Halo. It’s probably my favourite Halo game of all time now, including Bungie’s body of work.
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All of these points are opinions so I won’t try to contest; with the exception of the melee nerf.
I see a common trend where people seem to think that the global melee nerf was implemented to just mute the Mangler rather than consider the flip side - that the Mangler issue was resolved in a global melee nerf that telemetry or other feedback indicated was too productive in the balance they’re trying to create. Stacking that melee reduction on top of the removal of the mechanic that allowed one player to survive trades that should kill them, melee feels a lot less cheesy -so far-.
As for the mangler itself it’s still a 3 shot kill, very fast ttk, or alternatively it can be used to shred shields and then dropped/swapped for an easier precision kill. There is a skill gap with this weapon and the risk/reward balance makes it less favorable than before, for sure. Just because it’s no longer omnipotent doesn’t mean it’s useless though.
I forget who said it, but to paraphrase: “Halo Infinite is actually a fantastic game so long as you stay off social media.”
And it’s true. Whenever anything new happens in Infinite or the TV show I get super hyped. And then I come to Waypoint to have my parade rained on.
One of these days I might learn to stop coming here.
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Bold - This x 1000!
This is exactly how I feel and many friends of mine as well. I personally just don’t understand their way of thinking. You have a franchise that has been established for years!! you know (Or at least you should!) the things that the MAJORITY of fans like, dislike, and are split on. Everything from game modes, to weapons, Art/music style and so on.
Other than the major issues with Halo infinite that again, we all should know what they are right And it doesn’t matter if you agree with them or not you should know what the community has issues with… what perplexus me the most with this game is their choices for playlists and game modes. Again, we all know what game modes have been popular over the years and what hasn’t. It doesn’t matter if you like them or not but if you’re involved in the community you should know. So one would think when a company is making a new game those previous game modes would be priority to have in first because you KNOW they are popular. Yeah sure maybe you have one or two new game modes and that’s fine but overall a hole those core game modes need to be in. Then you start releasing new game modes after that. It just makes sense in my head.
The amount of people that I know that aren’t playing Halo infinite because it doesn’t have something as basic as bloody Ranked Team Slayer for example is ridiculous and 343 should hang their head and shame in that. It is unacceptable! Do these people not realize they are losing players on something so basic like that. The community had to practically beg them to put in even a social team slayer playlist That is just perplexing and mind-blowing to me. Yeah they said they’re bringing it out later but why the heck would you not launch your game with that?!?!? One can easily argue that team Slayer is by far the most popular mode in Halo franchise history and yet you didn’t have it?? Makes no sense!
Take another mode like Firefight for example. That mode has been insanely popular in ODST and in Reach and yet it’s never come back until once again the community practically begged 343 to put it in Halo 5. I remember when 343 previewed warzone back at E3 and one of the FIRST questions they were asked was "does this mean there’s going to be firefight in Halo 5?? It wasn’t even about the new mode they literally just showed!!! 
Seriously think about that for a second… If that doesn’t tell you this is what your community wants that I don’t know what the hell does! Yet, here we are with Infinite and no firefight and not even a mention of it…
Yeah it might come later, but that’s not the point here I’m trying to make and if you don’t understand that then I don’t think I can help you unfortunately.
Other than the big issues aside that we all know and don’t get me wrong they’re clearly an issue! In my opinion, the lack of key core playlists at launch (and right now) is the biggest problem in this game. It’s the biggest problem why your fan base is either not playing it or are pissed off as hell and if 343 don’t understand this then I seriously question anyone who’s calling the shots there.
It’s not rocket science here. It really, really isn’t!!
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I’ll give them credit for somehow making the game worse.
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Credit where credits due.
However, there are some glaring issues that people should be aware of regardless of your stance with 343.
Nerfing jumps in this particular Halo game was a bad move. Management needs to connect with the community more closely to avoid blunders like this in the future.
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The only positive credit you can give to 343 is something like “Well, at least they did better than DICE with Battlefield 2042, and at least the campaign is better than Halo 5”
Their game has almost no content. It has one of the worst progression / challenge systems seen this side of a mobile device. It has the worst netcode in the industry. It has the worst skill based matchmaking algorithms in the industry. It has no real social features. It is missing all kinds of things that Halo games from 15 years ago had. 343 consistently ignores feedback from fans like PC red reticle and player collision, and instead spends developer time and effort killing meaningless “bugs” that people were actually having fun with in the game and liked.
Halo Infinite has potential, but that’s all it has. And 343 shows no signs of being either capable or willing to do the things necessary to capitalize on Infinite’s potential. Instead, they appear incompetent and determined to make decisions that bury Halo Infinite’s potential six feet under. And the player counts show it.
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You always have to respect other people work, but you get credit when you actually deserve it, and to me they don’t deserve it right now. I can honestly say that the game hasn’t improved in half a year, the gameplay is still filled with the old same problems, and 5 games in the new season were enough for me to see that now they’re somehow worse.
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LMAO… I always found funny these kind of posts (specially the ones that create another timeline where people hated Halo 3). We all PRAISED 343 in the flights, we were all hyped and certainly believed that Halo was back and it was going to beat a new CoD and (what we thought in those times) the epic return of BF. The truth is that 343 had a clear route to success but they fumble it.
And they dont deserve anything else, we where really nice in the beginning (other point that these posts kind of forget) and their response was nothing at best. And we dont OWN them anything! people keep treating 343 like a poor indy developer that only misread what we wanted, the truth is different:
- They sell cosmetics at premium prices
- They went radio silence for whatever reason, and if it “toxicity”, then idk what to tell you, we where all giving a lot of feedback and until this day many people create renders of a better UI
- The whole challence system was build to take more money from us with Challenge Swaps and Exp boosters
- The whole original matchmaking lists were build so their “new content” and “Awesome content” were just old game modes we already had in other games since launch
- They took the emblem system so they can sell it
- They took the armor color system so they can sell it
- They took the progression system so they can sell it
This whole game feels plastic and more like a sales platform and less than a game, not even Call of Duty feels this way. Everything you had it is not because you earn it, but because you just happen to enter the store one day.
343 didn’t even make Halo, they just took what others build and work on it and it has been downhill ever since, they need a new direction because they have been missing almost every note. And we dont have to give them more time or anything, they had enough and there are other better games ready for us
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I remember one of the first thing they did when the game came out was adjusting the prices of the items in the store that were apparently too high. It was literally the first thing they cared about, even if it was already clear that there were more urgent problems.
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You cant argue that there are tons of changes and surprises. Ive actually been telling my friends that they might not notice any differences from when they last played in December.
I honestly don’t think that’s true, unless you’re intentionally ignoring the bad parts of Halo Infinite. Desync, lack of content, bad event structure, no progression, are all still real problems that are serious problems with the game regardless of what Waypoint, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube or any other site are telling you.
Part of the reason people make posts and get angry about these things, is because 343 isn’t giving them what they want and making a more robust sequel over the prior game. People will often praise the core of Infinite’s gameplay, but I feel that’s rose-tinted glasses mixed with the bad parts of contemporaneous games being really bad.
There are serious issues with even Halo Infinite’s core that needs to be addressed, and either not talking about them or ignoring them outright isn’t going to fix it. It’s not a crime to be positive about what’s good in Halo Infinite, but criticism where criticism is warranted is not at all a bad thing. This is why I take issue with posts like these - yes, not all of Halo Infinite is bad, but we have to keep talking about and providing constructive, effective feedback to 343 so that the sore spots get fixed faster and that issues like the Tank Gun and Fusion Coil jump in Campaign, bugs that never needed to get patched, aren’t taking priority.
there are quite literally things they are refusing to give, such as non-color swatch customization.
EH, EEEEEEH.
They have been given tons of time,
And every opportunity to correct their issues.
Its Been 6 months,
6 Long months of critical fan feed back,
They haven’t done a single thing right in that time.
They admitted that they didn’t even have a deployable road map.
They admitted that the had Zero clue what they had planned, and what they were doing.
They ALREADY got that credit they deserved,
And then they spent that credit poorly.
All the credit they could have had is gone.
So many players held on, and had faith that the game would improve.
Now season 2 has rolled around and its just more of season 1 + more bad design decisions.
343i does this so regularly,
They Ruined Halo 4 and 5 before this,
They don’t deserve any more player sympathy.
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I was almost convinced. But then I thought
“Nah! They deserve it.”
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