343, can we plz get bayonet assassinations in H5?

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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I understand that 343 recently gave us a lot of requested reqs and features and I’m very pleased with what we have received.

However, I’m disappointed that we are still unable to assassinate with bayonets.

I’m quite surprised by this, as the bayonet is nearly identical to the other melee weapons in the game, as you can see below.

Energy Sword: 1-hit kill? Yes. Lunge? Yes. Assassination? Yes.

Gravity Hammer: 1-hit kill? Yes. Lunge? Yes. Assassination? Yes.

Bayonet: 1-hit kill? Yes. Lunge? Yes. Assassination? No!

I know that people aren’t keen on bayonet assassinations for a variety of reasons, more on that in the spoiler.

I understand that some people consider having bayonet assassinations would be too much like GOW, but I imagine that a GOW bayonet execution and a Halo bayonet assassination would be quite different to each other.

Furthermore, several players are concerned that accidentally starting a bayonet assassination when they attack someone from behind with one would make them vulnerable, as the bayonet wouldn’t have the insta-kill effect. However, I believe that this can be remedied by having a “disable bayonet assassinations” option in the controller menu (like there is for normal assassinations).

I’m not asking for loads and loads of different bayonet assassinations, I would just like to have 2 or 3 awesome assassinations to add a little extra “coolness” to bayonets.

@ske7ch
@Uny
@Drell Assassin

Assassination ideas:

Just a Slice:
Spartan A grabs Spartan B’s right shoulder, turns him round and slashes him horizontally across the abdomen.

Big Needle:
Imagine the Inevitability assassination, but with a bayonet.

Tip of the Spear (uses thrusters):
Bayonet version of Terminal Velocity.

Can Opener:
Spartan A kicks the back of Spartan B’s knee, forcing him down, then Spartan A swings his gun like a battle axe to slice B’s neck. (Idea by Eleventh Sniper)

Outta My Way: Spartan A shoves bayonet into Spartan B’s back, then kicks him off. (Original idea by CMShankz)

Neurosurgery: Spartan A stabs Spartan B in the back of the head, then knocks him to the floor with a rifle butt to the head.

Quite the Ride:
Spartan A sweeps the legs of Spartan B and, as he hits the floor, Spartan A bayonets him in the stomach.

Shoot 'em up: Spartan A grabs Spartan B’s right shoulder, turns him round, stabs him in the stomach then shoots him off.

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Link to poll.

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These would be definitely nice to have.

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> These would be definitely nice to have.

Yep!

343 could re-use some of the current assassinations and just “add” a bayonet variant instead of the knife.

If you think of any animation ideas, I could add them to the idea spoiler.:relaxed:

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One thing i kinda miss is i remember being able to sprint into an assassination back in halo 4. I think it would be cool if it worked like that, but since they added shoulder charge i guess it would just be cool if it was similar to the sword assassination.

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> One thing i kinda miss is i remember being able to sprint into an assassination back in halo 4. I think it would be cool if it worked like that, but since they added shoulder charge i guess it would just be cool if it was similar to the sword assassination.

I have thought of a sprint bayonet assassination.

It would look “similar” to this!

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Neat idea

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> Neat idea

Thanks to the Custom Games Browser, you’d be able to get them in something other than WZ.:relaxed:

Look great in slow motion as well.

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Personally I’d like to see a spartan charge assassination. Charge into their back, and spartan A slams spartan B’s skull harshly into the ground, or something like that. Probably a 1 second animation. If you’ve ever played Assassin’s Creed, it’d be similar to the assassination when you run by a guard and press whatever button it is.

But the bayonets could use some love too.

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> Personally I’d like to see a spartan charge assassination. Charge into their back, and spartan A slams spartan B’s skull harshly into the ground, or something like that. Probably a 1 second animation. If you’ve ever played Assassin’s Creed, it’d be similar to the assassination when you run by a guard and press whatever button it is.
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> But the bayonets could use some love too.

I’ve played Assassins Creed, are you referring to the “running tackle” move?

Hopefully, adding bayonet assassinations would be quite simple, from a doability viewpoint.

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> > Personally I’d like to see a spartan charge assassination. Charge into their back, and spartan A slams spartan B’s skull harshly into the ground, or something like that. Probably a 1 second animation. If you’ve ever played Assassin’s Creed, it’d be similar to the assassination when you run by a guard and press whatever button it is.
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> > But the bayonets could use some love too.
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> I’ve played Assassins Creed, are referring to the “running tackle” move?
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> Hopefully, adding bayonet assassinations would be quite simple, from a doability viewpoint.

At the 7 second mark.
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> > > Personally I’d like to see a spartan charge assassination. Charge into their back, and spartan A slams spartan B’s skull harshly into the ground, or something like that. Probably a 1 second animation. If you’ve ever played Assassin’s Creed, it’d be similar to the assassination when you run by a guard and press whatever button it is.
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> > > But the bayonets could use some love too.
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> > I’ve played Assassins Creed, are referring to the “running tackle” move?
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> > Hopefully, adding bayonet assassinations would be quite simple, from a doability viewpoint.
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> The Running Assassin| ACIV Assassination Montage - YouTube
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> At the 7 second mark.

That would make a good SMG bayonet assassinations.

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As long as the bayonet assassinations don’t take too long to perform, I say yes!

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> As long as the bayonet assassinations don’t take too long to perform, I say yes!

They wouldn’t be longer than 5 seconds, four at maximum.

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> > As long as the bayonet assassinations don’t take too long to perform, I say yes!
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> They wouldn’t be longer than 5 seconds, four at maximum.

Go into Halo 5, start a matchmaking game, and count slowly to 5 or look at a clock while in-game. 4-5 seconds is a pretty long time, especially when we are talking about assassinating opponents who are probably near others.
The assassination 104 Ways To Die is pretty lame, and only legendary because of its speed. I think it takes just over a second to complete. Nothing triggers people quicker than to get Showstopped.

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> > > As long as the bayonet assassinations don’t take too long to perform, I say yes!
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> > They wouldn’t be longer than 5 seconds, four at maximum.
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> Go into Halo 5, start a matchmaking game, and count slowly to 5 or look at a clock while in-game. 4-5 seconds is a pretty long time, especially when we are talking about assassinating opponents who are probably near others.
> The assassination 104 Ways To Die is pretty lame, and only legendary because of its speed. I think it takes just over a second to complete. Nothing triggers people quicker than to get Showstopped.

The 4-5 seconds was a quick guesstimate.

Just counted it in forge, it is way too long!:grin:

I think it would be best if they were no longer than the longest “knife” assassination.

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> > > > As long as the bayonet assassinations don’t take too long to perform, I say yes!
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> > > They wouldn’t be longer than 5 seconds, four at maximum.
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> > Go into Halo 5, start a matchmaking game, and count slowly to 5 or look at a clock while in-game. 4-5 seconds is a pretty long time, especially when we are talking about assassinating opponents who are probably near others.
> > The assassination 104 Ways To Die is pretty lame, and only legendary because of its speed. I think it takes just over a second to complete. Nothing triggers people quicker than to get Showstopped.
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> The 4-5 seconds was a quick guesstimate.
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> Just counted it in forge, it way too long!:grin:
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> I think it would be best if they were no longer than the longest “knife” assassination.

That would be pretty good. :slight_smile:

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This is very well done. Some excellent ideas.

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> This is very well done. Some excellent ideas.

Hope ske7ch and Uny check their notifications. :tired_face:

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> > This is very well done. Some excellent ideas.
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> Hope ske7ch and Uny check their notifications. :tired_face:

Fingers crossed