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Halo 4 is expletive compared to all other Halo installments save ODST. If you disagree with this statement continue forward to see why I would say such a thing.

I have been a life long gamer. The only reason I bought an Xbox over a PS2 or Game Cube was for Halo. As a kid the Flood scared the crap out of me and mowing down what felt like hundreds of them made everyone feel like a badass. When Halo 2 came out the trailer alone gave me chills but the magnificent Campaign (save the ending of course) and the best multiplayer I had every played made you run home from school every day to hop on and see who was online. Halo 2 of course is the reason I have now have had Xbox Live for 7 years and it put me into the competitive league of halo as I joined local and online tournaments for the first time. I remember the night that Halo 2 came out because my father waited two hours in line to get it because my brother and I were so excited to play it. We made a pact with a good friend that the three of us would always go through the campaign on legendary together for as long as the series lasted. Then came the release of Halo 3. We stayed up the entire night it came out and then into the morning creating memories for all of us to recollect. We had never yelled so many times out of excitement from one game, worn out so many controllers and mics, or dedicated so much of our gaming time to one game as the Halo series. We of course did the same with Halo:Reach, Halo:Wars, and Halo:ODST. Then came the announcement of Halo 4…

My brother and I watched every episode and followed every thread we could until the night it was released.
Now to get a picture, my brother and I have always preferred to play split screen. So when we start playing and the graphics are so tuned down that Halo 3 looked leagues ahead, we knew something was wrong. We worried about there being no beta tests, we worried about a group separate than bungie taking this project, we worried that Halo 4 would do too much to hop on the COD ban wagon. Our worries were sound.

There was a firm line between COD fanboys and Halo fanboys. There was a reason for this. COD is a fast paced one man army speed shooter. Halo is a heavily team based power shooter. 343 decided to mix them and to every argument about which was a better shooter they refused to listen. 343 sold out.

This is why:

The Campaign was at best overly romantic and filled with forgettable missions.

They added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Care Packages(Ordinance drops) and a leveling system that just shows how much you play rather than how good you are.

They didn’t beta test anything resulting in obscene lag in both the Campaign and Matchmaking.

Master Chief is a heartless walking machine of death who has taken life ever sense childhood. He literally sleeps until it’s time to wake up and destroy an armada or entire species. But 343 thought it would be great to make him romantically attached to an AI that he has only known for a few years.

There are many more reasons but at it’s base 343 betrayed the die hard Halo fans.

I am honestly ashamed that this game was released with the Halo name. In ironic elegance 343 industries has become exactly what their name referenced to in the halo games. An annoying little thing that killed something held dear out of nothing but arrogance that they could do better.

I am a die hard Halo fan and I will not pay another dime to 343 ever again.

May 343 never be given the rights to ever develop a halo game.

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Disagree.

But if you don’t like the way they changed things then no one is holding you here. Halo isn’t the only game in the world.

EDIT: Also I love your biased poll.

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Looking at your poll, I’m just going to assume nothing in this great wall of text is worth reading.

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Then don’t play Halo 4 and go play CoD points to the poll

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Your right. No one is holding me to Halo anymore. For 7 long years it was always the back up game no matter what was out we could always hop on halo. This is aimed at die hard fans of halo, not casual gamers. Honestly I enjoy COD but they are vastly different games and should have been kept that way. All I can say is I am painfully disappointed with Halo 4 to the point they have lost a 7 year fan because of it.

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Just another person that can’t accept change. Your thread is as meaningful as all other threads ever made with each release of the Halo series.

There will always be a select few who think the story line or game should’ve gone a certain way. But there will never be such an outcry from these minorities that cause the complete change of it’s mechanics.

In other words, Deal with it. If you enjoy other games, play them. I apologize the one you loved so much has changed, I really do, take it from me a 7 year old veteran to the game RuneScape, until they changed it forever today. To the point where I can’t even play the game anymore, but I shalln’t waste my breathe against corporation tyrants to save what I love, because I have in the past and it’s simply futile.

Move on, love life, forget about it.

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> Halo 4 is expletive compared to all other Halo installments save ODST.

I loved ODST

> So when we start playing and the graphics are so tuned down that Halo 3 looked leagues ahead, we knew something was wrong.

Wait, you think Halo 3 looks better than Halo 4?

Valhalla (H3) vs Ragnarok (H4) Graphics

> There was a firm line between COD fanboys and Halo fanboys. There was a reason for this. COD is a fast paced one man army speed shooter. Halo is a heavily team based power shooter.

Calling fans of either series “fanboys” is just going to start fights. As far as Halo being a team based game, we must have been playing very different games the last 10 years. Most randoms I’ve ever played with when not playing with my friends have cared nothing for their team. People will betray you to get certain weapons and vehicles. On objectives modes, I’ve had teammates who do everything but play the objective.

> They added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Care Packages(Ordinance drops) and a leveling system that just shows how much you play rather than how good you are.

Aside from “perks and ordnance drops”, Halo Reach introduced Sprint, Loadouts, and a level system that shows only how much you play. That was Bungie, not 343.

> Master Chief is a heartless walking machine of death who has taken life ever sense childhood. He literally sleeps until it’s time to wake up and destroy an armada or entire species. But 343 thought it would be great to make him romantically attached to an AI that he has only known for a few years.

Another person that has only seen Master Chief through the games and not the rest of the Halo media. He is anything but a heartless walking machine of death and that is exactly what 343 brough into light in the campaign. He is a human being with emotions, feelings, and a conscience. Much of what has happened in his life weighs heavily upon the Chief’s mind. As for knowing Cortana for a “few” years, it’s been much longer than that. The romance between the two has been happening in every Halo since Halo: CE.

I am one of these “die hard” Halo fans you speak of and I overall love Halo 4. It’s campaign was the most thought provoking one to date. It’s multiplayer, while plagued with issues, is incredibly fun. Halo is in good hands with 343 and I personally can’t wait to see where the story and game go next.

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> Your right. No one is holding me to Halo anymore. For 7 long years it was always the back up game no matter what was out we could always hop on halo. This is aimed at die hard fans of halo, not casual gamers. Honestly I enjoy COD but they are vastly different games and should have been kept that way. All I can say is I am painfully disappointed with Halo 4 to the point they have lost a 7 year fan because of it.

I’d feel bad for your loss but your poll tells me not to.

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Mod, can we please get a lock?

Flames are hot in here and are unproductive.

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> > Halo 4 is expletive compared to all other Halo installments save ODST.
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> > So when we start playing and the graphics are so tuned down that Halo 3 looked leagues ahead, we knew something was wrong.
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> Wait, you think Halo 3 looks better than Halo 4?
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> Valhalla (H3) vs Ragnarok (H4) Graphics
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> > There was a firm line between COD fanboys and Halo fanboys. There was a reason for this. COD is a fast paced one man army speed shooter. Halo is a heavily team based power shooter.
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> Calling fans of either series “fanboys” is just going to start fights. As far as Halo being a team based game, we must have been playing very different games the last 10 years. Most randoms I’ve ever played with when not playing with my friends have cared nothing for their team. People will betray you to get certain weapons and vehicles. On objectives modes, I’ve had teammates who do everything but play the objective.
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> > They added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Care Packages(Ordinance drops) and a leveling system that just shows how much you play rather than how good you are.
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> Aside from “perks and ordnance drops”, Halo Reach introduced Sprint, Loadouts, and a level system that shows only how much you play. That was Bungie, not 343.
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> > Master Chief is a heartless walking machine of death who has taken life ever sense childhood. He literally sleeps until it’s time to wake up and destroy an armada or entire species. But 343 thought it would be great to make him romantically attached to an AI that he has only known for a few years.
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> Another person that has only seen Master Chief through the games and not the rest of the Halo media. He is anything but a heartless walking machine of death and that is exactly what 343 brough into light in the campaign. He is a human being with emotions, feelings, and a conscience. Much of what has happened in his life weighs heavily upon the Chief’s mind. As for knowing Cortana for a “few” years, it’s been much longer than that. The romance between the two has been happening in every Halo since Halo: CE.
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> I am one of these “die hard” Halo fans you speak of and I overall love Halo 4. It’s campaign was the most thought provoking one to date. It’s multiplayer, while plagued with issues, is incredibly fun. Halo is in good hands with 343 and I personally can’t wait to see where the story and game go next.

Sorry for the long quote, but I completely agree with this man, he’s going about these issues in all the right manner.

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> Your right. No one is holding me to Halo anymore. For 7 long years it was always the back up game no matter what was out we could always hop on halo. This is aimed at die hard fans of halo, not casual gamers. Honestly I enjoy COD but they are vastly different games and should have been kept that way. All I can say is I am painfully disappointed with Halo 4 to the point they have lost a 7 year fan because of it.

I’ve been FPS gaming for roughly 15 years and have played Halo since it’s inception. I have yet to see an intelligent criticism telling me why this game is bad. The only real problems with the game can be fixed with patches.

This is easily one of the best Halo’s I’ve played. It’s still early, so I obviously can’t put it at number 1 or 2 yet, but I feel comfortable putting it in the number 3 spot as of now. The few problems I have with the game can easily be fixed with a patch.

The campaign was great. Spartan Ops was an amazing addition that other games should try and replicate. Love the multiplayer maps so far. Dominion game type is my crack.

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You do know some Bungie work at 343 right? Right? Right?

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> You do know some Bungie work at 343 right? Right? Right?

The number of Bungie employees at 343 can be counted on one hand.

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My life is literally halo. Sad as that may be its true. I sleep, wake up and play halo. Eat, put down my fork and play halo. Work, come home undress and play halo. Have intimate times with my GF (who also loves halo) and then play halo. In fact we do it playing halo. I am practically imbedded with halo DNA lol

I have my many complaints about this game, as a lot of people do. I think 343i did a lot of things wrong and only did a handful of things right. (Mostly wrong) There is nothing I can do about it though.

343i has horrid servers and a kind of bad ranking system (so far) they have a lot of minor things they looked over that need to be fixed. The joystick acceleration is broken, some of the levels have holes in them, the kill cams are way off, there is no options for connectivity filtering etc. I will admit halo reach didn’t have a great ranking system either but that was one of the very few things wrong with the game.

Bungie never had a pay to play (buy the game SE and rank your -Yoink- off)
Bungie portrayed the story of halo rather well.
Bungie had great button layouts and game mechanics.
Bungie just did a lot of things right.

343i is well… Like a baby who can’t walk yet and just tried to run a mile.

Yeah the moved a few feet forward but still fell short of a mile. (by a lot)

The intention of making this game more “COD” like was to expand the fan base and bring more people into the halo universe while persevering some of the major halo features and mechanics. They want the halo players to still feel like they are playing halo and the new comers to feel like its something they can play and get use to.

Which I really don’t give a -Yoink- about how the COD players feel coming into halo because this is HALO not COD lol If I had it my way I would have kept this game feeling strictly like a halo game and implemented new features that were exclusively introduce in halo 4 (you know something original and new) while new is not easy its worth while and I can’t help but feel 343i got a bit lazy on a few things.

-Sigh-

I could rant for days about all the things I feel they did wrong but its just not worth it. Everyone has their own formulated opinions and people will argue with anyone and everyone that there is so real reasons to dislike this game or 343i. I mean they got the campaign right and I guess that’s good enough for me. Hopefully they take a little advice from the fans and head in a revolutionary direction instead of using recycled ideas that are already in other games.

I love halo 4 despite all the things I really dislike, I just can’t hate something I’ve loved for over 10 years. As I said before, halo is in my BLOOD!

Its one of the only games I truly enjoy and probably the only fps I like. I’m kind of forced to like this game, without I might as well just sell my xbox and quit fps’s for the remainder of my life.

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> I will not pay another dime to 343 ever again.

Bye.

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that poll makes you sound like a winey little cry baby who throws a tantrum every time he doesn’t get his way, and since I’m not allowed around babies anymore… bye.

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Alrighty…well Im going to have to say something, because my mind cannot fathom this entire rant collectively at this moment in time.

first off…master chief romance? eh a little but if you’ve read the books and such hes more likely to be attatched to her because shes based off doctor halsey and she was basically like his mother his whole life, given the fact that he was taken away and became one of her projects.

Like you, Ive been playing halo since i was a tike. Halo has been my main game since the ages of CE and Ive played em all thick and through. Given, some of your allocations are correct i cannot help but disagree almost completely.

Campaign

The Halo 4 campaign i felt was quite possibly one of the most enthralling and ill give you a few reasons for this.

1.It gives you a clear understanding of what in the hell is going on in chiefs head. For the first time you get to really know what hes like. You begin to understand that hes not just some meciles cold minded killing machine. He’s human. like you, me, and everyone else. His humanity comes to light in this game and you understand and acknowledge Master chief isn’t Immortal. He has faults just like anyone. You see his passion, you see his never ending tenacity to succeed and help. and you see him struggle with who he is.

  1. I feel the cinematics were astounding and really gave you a great feel of the story and helped you get to know more about each individual character in the game. It made me feel although i was watching an amazing movie in the cut scenes.

3.You get to see the chief show his rebel side!!

4.The missions really arent that forgettable. i found them very well put together and they deserve credit for that. Every single campaign mission dragged my curiousity in further.

5.Lastly, Chief isnt alone anymore in the sense of being the last “spartan”. we have now seen the new installments of spartans 3’s. although they arent as badassafied as chief they still play a great roll in the campaign and give you an idea for whats next to come.

Now, on to the “COD” references.

Halo 4 doesnt give me a COD feel at all really. what they did was implement something that gives variety to the game. it completely unlike COD in the fact that you cannot use strong ridiculous LMG’s or N00b tubes and things alike right off the bat in your’ loadout. Nor can you pick which ordanances you get (unless you have a SP perk active). Also unlike COD you cant throw knives and crap like that. and last time i checked, COD didnt have badass assassination animations (+1 343i). Now i know its true they may have installed a sprinting system into the game play but i think its gives a nice new feel to the game. makes things a bit more interesting.

Beta Testing

As for Beta testing. its true they didnt have a “public” beta test… But riddle me this one. Do you honestly think for one minute that 343i didnt test this stuff at all? i guarantee you 100% they did a mother load of testing and corrected things the best they could. i know they had people testing the game and stuff like that because i had seen the Machinima game play vids and all that around or right before the release of the Machinima series “Forward Unto Dawn” which was the prelude to halo 4. Plus all the leaked footage all over youtube. And I’m positive they did reasonable larger scaled testing, it would be obsured if they didnt.

Ranking System

Lastly, as for the ranking system, Tt doesn’t have the halo 2/3 rank system, and personally, i really liked that a lot. it seperated the players so casual’s wouldn’t hate matchmaking and hardcore’s could get they’re challenging fill. That’s something Ive always liked and I too wish they had implemented. Although, it is also very cool that you have the option to co-level into a specialization and have your armor SP actually play a roll in whom you choose to be in multiplayer. Your specialization gives you the feeling like your an actual spartan. (if you have read the books you know that each individual spartan II had a special gift, John-117 being the technilogically advanced smart spartan, and runt of the litter when it came to physical augmentations) i will somewhat agree with you on the ranking system do to my opinion being split on it.

Anyway, thats my take on this thread. If any of you agree or disagree, feel free to quote this and leave your opinion.

P.S.-please take that ridiculous biased poll down. it makes no sense.

Thanks, LT Fat Llama

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> Now to get a picture, my brother and I have always preferred to play split screen. So when we start playing and the graphics are so tuned down that Halo 3 looked leagues ahead, we knew something was wrong.

This guy must be playing on a potato

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> > Now to get a picture, my brother and I have always preferred to play split screen. So when we start playing and the graphics are so tuned down that Halo 3 looked leagues ahead, we knew something was wrong.
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> This guy must be playing on a potato

This made me lol.

For those who say that Halo 4 is the most thought provoking of the lot I thoroughly agree. The OP has missed the plot that AI’s and digitally stored humans are very close… The Didact was digitally storing humans which was what caused the Librarian to act.

The Didact doesn’t even feel he is doing the wrong thing. The original war between the Forerunners and humans was based on curing the Flood after all. The Didact was just trying to protect his race like the Master Chief is trying to protect us.

So yeah… the story I think is the best yet. I just guess the OP likes to keep playing the same thing over and over again. I loved Halo CE when it came out. But when I went to play CE Anniversary I was like… “WHAT?”. It’s good but not great.

Rose coloured glasses effect maybe?

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I didnt bother reading the opening post the moment I saw the poll used Call Of Duty as the alternative to playing HALO 4 lol

HALO 4 is the total package for an FPS right now. A rich grown up HALO story that is beautiful in its production, outstanding in its story telling and ends with your wanting more in HALO 5

The SP in Call Of Duty is thrown in to justify it having a full RRP price when everyone knows that the MP is just reskinned every year since 2009…HALO 4 is something new, it feels new, it feems innovative and can only get better

Those who think a diret comparison of the two franchises is justified lose all credibility in my eyes, immediately