343 are the right company

Games Other Halo
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No company or game is perfect alot of you seem to forget that. Bungie wasn’t perfect it took them alot of time to fix Halo 2 , which was horribly broken before the TU . Also 343I’s arent perfect yes they have made errors. But I still believe they are the right company for Halo . Alot of you seem to forget the good things they have done since taking over the Halo universe. For me yes my favourite Halo is Halo 2. But that doesnt mean I hate Halo 4 or 343. I didnt really think Halo 3 was as good in my opinion but I still enjoyed it. Again I dont think Halo 4 is as good but again like Halo 3 , it’s just me and my nostalgia when it comes to Halo 2 . Halo 3 , 4 and Reach are all great games.

So for all you 343 haters I have complied a list of everything great 343 has done for the Halo Universe :

Fall of Reach , The Flood & First Strike Have All Been Updated To Remove alot of the inconsistencies

Fall of Reach - Has been adapted to a 3 part comic series , Giving more detail in some parts .

Forward Unto Dawn was made before Halo 4 , and was really great for all Halo fans.

They are continuing with the publication of the books like Primordium , Cryptum and Silentium

Halo CE Anniversary was made , Bringing the game that started it all into HD , with new story via terminals. 6 Maps were also bought back for Halo Reach

Reach was updated with a TU that addressed many things people hated about Reach like Bloom .

Halo Legends was done by 343i’s , 7 short anime episodes featuring different storys within the Halo universe

Spartan Ops - a weekly free release of Missions and a story 6 months after the events of Halo 4 , with some truly amazing cutscenes .

They are currently tweaking Halo 4 faster then Bungie ever tweaked one of there Halo games.

That’s what I can think of on the top of my head, 343 are the right company for Halo , They have clearly shown they arent just there to make money and they actually care about the Halo franchise.

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i like how they take lots of things from the book to improve the experience for people who have read them.

And they stay loyal to the books

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it could always be worse…

say it enough and you`ll believe it.

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I agree that although Halo 4 has had some teething problems 343i have put massive amounts of effort and resources into making it a great game. People are quick to forget this sometimes I feel.
Also, it’s improving all the time. Bravo is doing a good job of giving the ‘competitive’ players what they want. Team Doubles/Team Snipers/Team Throwdown etc. Yes, those playlists need tweaking once released, but they have entire forums dedicated to fan feedback on matchmaking with topics specifically for each playlist and map. They’re listening, and working hard to help Halo continue to be an awesome franchise.
Thank you 343i.

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If they were the right company they would have looked at Reach and thought “Hey, this sucks and no one likes it. Halo 3 was far more popular”.

Instead, they thought “Hey, this sucks, lets add more cod too it”.

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Four months and no classic playlist or anything like it. Don’t say they cant do it because Frankie had said that on release the game would come with a classic playlist. And every resource is already there to do so.

Four months and nothing. Everybody left, and so they should have. 343i have done nothing but kick the series while its down. I would really love to see them finish with Halo 5 because it has been one bad decision after another. The only credible thing in the game is the engine itself, everything else belongs in the bargain bin… which is funny because that’s where it is in stores.

And no they are not tweaking the game faster than Bungie did. Most patches for Halo games were released in January. All 343i have done is make silly playlist updates which Bungie of course did.

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LoL the last 3 halo games (ODST, Reach and 4) are all rubbish CoD ripoffs…

ODST was a direct CoD ripoff so at least that was good… but reach and 4 are Halo games gone wrong …

not to even mention the major MAJOR balancing issues (which can be fixed in custom games, but dont earn commendations for playing)

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The game either dies young as a hero like HCE/H2 or lives long enough to be a villain 3/R/4

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> LoL the last 3 halo games (ODST, Reach and 4) are all rubbish CoD ripoffs…
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> ODST was a direct CoD ripoff so at least that was good… but reach and 4 are Halo games gone wrong …
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> not to even mention the major MAJOR balancing issues (which can be fixed in custom games, but dont earn commendations for playing)

I’m sorry how really? how was odst a cod rip off? it had no online and used Halo 3’s engine

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Its more appropriate to say 343i should be the right company, they have access to everything Halo under one roof, and some extremely talented people as well.

If they continue to improve the game, then perhaps there is hope after all, but they need to improve both Custom Games, Forge, Multiplayer, and Spartan Op’s to truly make the game a success, or atleast feel whole.

They have their work cut out for them, but they seem to be going in the right direction finally.

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Or the fact that Bungie was actively involved with the community and took into effect what the fans wanted, where here its just a bunch of little kids playing king of the sandbox

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> LoL the last 3 halo games (ODST, Reach and 4) are all rubbish CoD ripoffs…
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> ODST was a direct CoD ripoff so at least that was good… but reach and 4 are Halo games gone wrong …
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> not to even mention the major MAJOR balancing issues (which can be fixed in custom games, but dont earn commendations for playing)

How exactly was ODST a cod rip off?

It was actually an amazing Halo campaign experience with no CoD elements at all…

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> The game either dies young as a hero like HCE/H2 or lives long enough to be a villain 3/R/4

How does any of that even make sense?

Halo:CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 all lived long and were much loved.

Reach and Reach 2 both died quickly and are hated by the great majority…

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> If they were the right company they would have looked at Reach and thought “Hey, this sucks and no one likes it. Halo 3 was far more popular”.
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> Instead, they thought “Hey, this sucks, lets add more cod too it”.

However, I think people would look at that like a de-evolution of Halo I guess. Bungie added many new things into the game to try to increase the variety for Halo players but it kinda backfired. Going back to the old Halo formula probably just wouldn’t do now in 2012-2013. You need to change somewhere and keeping it exactly like Halo 3 just wouldn’t have been a viable option. It would also cause quite a bit of outrage because there would be no point in purchasing Halo 4. You could just pop in your Halo 3 disc. It’s all about taking a chance and 343i took a big one.

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> > If they were the right company they would have looked at Reach and thought “Hey, this sucks and no one likes it. Halo 3 was far more popular”.
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> > Instead, they thought “Hey, this sucks, lets add more cod too it”.
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> However, I think people would look at that like a de-evolution of Halo I guess. Bungie added many new things into the game to try to increase the variety for Halo players but it kinda backfired. Going back to the old Halo formula probably just wouldn’t do now in 2012-2013. You need to change somewhere and keeping it exactly like Halo 3 just wouldn’t have been a viable option. It would also cause quite a bit of outrage because there would be no point in purchasing Halo 4. You could just pop in your Halo 3 disc. It’s all about taking a chance and 343i took a big one.

Who said anything about a carbon copy of Halo 3 or any previous game for that matter?

NO ONE

There were many and signigicant changes between Halo:CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Yet they were all still Halo games.

As soon as Halo stopped being Halo and became Reach, no one played. No one is playing. The games population figures don’t lie. It’s a failure.

The last REAL Halo game we got took 3 years, 3 cod games and many other block busters to JUST knock it off the number 1 spot.

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> > > If they were the right company they would have looked at Reach and thought “Hey, this sucks and no one likes it. Halo 3 was far more popular”.
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> > > Instead, they thought “Hey, this sucks, lets add more cod too it”.
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> > However, I think people would look at that like a de-evolution of Halo I guess. Bungie added many new things into the game to try to increase the variety for Halo players but it kinda backfired. Going back to the old Halo formula probably just wouldn’t do now in 2012-2013. You need to change somewhere and keeping it exactly like Halo 3 just wouldn’t have been a viable option. It would also cause quite a bit of outrage because there would be no point in purchasing Halo 4. You could just pop in your Halo 3 disc. It’s all about taking a chance and 343i took a big one.
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> Who said anything about a carbon copy of Halo 3 or any previous game for that matter?
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> NO ONE
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> There were many and signigicant changes between Halo:CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Yet they were all still Halo games.
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> As soon as Halo stopped being Halo and became Reach, no one played. No one is playing. The games population figures don’t lie. It’s a failure.
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> The last REAL Halo game we got took 3 years, 3 cod games and many other block busters to JUST knock it off the number 1 spot.

Saying NO ONE is an absolute lie. I have seen many people complain about how they want Halo 3 back and yadda yadda yadda. Maybe that wasn’t what they meant 100% but that’s what it sounded like. Clarity is a good tool, people should use it more often. Halo is still Halo to me even a long-time fan such as myself however, you obviously feel differently and that’s fine. Higher population =/= better game. Let’s take BO2 for example, #1 on the XBL activity charts but I see left and right of me people complaining about lag, spawn points and just that they incorporate the same thing every year with hardly any new elements. CoD probably only sells in titles which I’m guessing is also a major selling point for Halo.

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Black ops 2 is easily better than Halo 4 and a massive improvement on MW3.

Lag Compensation is the only real issue with the game.

And the only people who claim cod doesn’t change are Halo fanboys who don’t even play it…

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Don’t forget bungie were also the ones to implement AAs which many people in these forums hate.

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How could lag be the only issue in BO:2? I play that game a lot as i’m a 10th prestige and yes that game is a big improvement from MW3 but there are serious problems with map flow and balance in the game.
The FAL, PDW, msmc seem to be the weapons most people run simply because they outclass most of the other weapons in the game.

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> How could lag be the only issue in BO:2? I play that game a lot as i’m a 10th prestige and yes that game is a big improvement from MW3 but there are serious problems with map flow and balance in the game.
> The FAL, PDW, msmc seem to be the weapons most people run simply because they outclass most of the other weapons in the game.

You must not be very good…

I have no problem with map movement or flow.

You don’t NEED to use the FAL/PDW/MSMC to perform in the game. I’ve done extremely well with the other weapons. It is far more balanced than only needing to use the DMR in Reach 2 or the MP7 in MW3.

> Don’t forget bungie were also the ones to implement AAs which many people in these forums hate.

And Bungie rightfully got the hate they deserved.

Want to know why 343 get even more hate? They kept AAs and added even more BS…