Also forgot that it has screen that looks like it’s a glitch cause it prompts you to buy it
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https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/halo-3-will-always-be-1-the-importance-of-first-impressions/3782
idk man, that fits what I’m saying here.
200k is absurd, how many games even pull that at all? Why do you think Halo needs that many players on at any one time to be successful?
I mean if your standard is 200k or bust then obviously you will always be disappointed.
Now with that being said they can do a lot of basic stuff to please fans (real fans, not close to 200k, to your point) and on that note they can create an awesome game over time. I just think that it is so far behind that I can’t imagine tons of players from Apex or Fortnite or Warzone wanting to make the switch (maybe tip toeing lol)
So in a way you could say I’m optimistic about the game itself (especially once we stop whining about fluff like the store or the cosmetics) but the sad reality of gaming these days is that even awesome games don’t get close to the recognition they deserve, so even if Infinite did a 180 (content wise) in 1 year it would not necessarily result in anything.
Edit: Let me state this again because I hate how cookie cutter and bland what people ask for is, Infinite could’ve been superior to Halo 5 (a game with 2 years of content) right out of the box, it could’ve been a genre defining experience. I don’t even mean basic stuff like Forge or Co-op, even something like a really cool and interesting Firefight mode would be huge as every other F2P game on the market seems to have nothing but PvP. We end up with a game that struggles to keep its core audience let alone branch out into other areas of gaming.
Halo is no longer going to be the xboxs primary game.
They need profit, working games, and shorter dev times.
Oh and I take back what I said earlier.
Old halo is dead.
343 not only cant make a complete game, they cant support it or fix anything quickly.
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If this game had released like any of the other halo’s (bar mcc and 5) it would have 200000 players to this day. Gta, apex legends, cod, all hit 200000 (or close to it) every so often despite having been released years ago. Halo games never struggled with that before thanks to forge, co-op, custom games, theater, etc. The game hasn’t hit 50k since last month on steam. Obviously it’s not dead, but we’re only a month after the release of the campaign, and the multiplayer is free to play…
But I agree with what you’ve been saying. Maybe I mistook you for somebody else. I remember someone avidly disagreeing with me that this was not going to happen.
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Game would’ve had half a million easy.
If it launched a year from now
Like I said, I’m conflicted 
Infinite will eventually flatline (as in it’ll hit its lowest low population wise, opposite of peak basically) and once it does it’ll be easier to make any sort of prediction or what have you as to the actual population numbers (the 200k close to launch isn’t too meaningful, as most of the players could’ve just left no matter what Infinite had)
What I find funny is all these people that trash Infinite as a F2P game, then they turn around and bring up other F2P games… Like bruh stay consistent. F2P games ebb and flow like crazy, people ignore that Apex for example dropped massively population wise a few months after release, they slowly offered more content and did patches and within like 3 months it had a huge uptick in its players (according to steamcharts)
I don’t wanna doom and gloom it, I don’t like doing that because it means that any future update or any thing that 343i does with it is meaningless, but it is difficult to look at it and not feel as though its a huge wasted opportunity. Instead of them impressing all those 200k players with a bunch of awesome and fun features, they just saw a game with like no content and yeeted the heck up out of here lol.
What I am worried about mainly isn’t the population numbers, what I am worried about is if 343i will ever do anything in terms of core issues with Infinite. No. I don’t just mean “store, money, communication” nah I mean basic issues like a BR that is too easy to use, an AR that is OP, Desync, competitive settings in general (Bazaar is trash) and so on. Infinite has a great base to build off of, but damn does it need tons of time and love to reach its potential.
/rant
True, Reach did have a much better launch than this. I get where you’re coming from, but I much prefer to be optimistic and give the benefit of the doubt, even if it’s not likely.
Call me a bootlicker if you want, but who knows, maybe there’s an explanation. (wow that sounded very cheesy)
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might want to curb that optimism when it comes to these big giant game companies, trust me when I say that people were hoping fallout 76 was good, then turned into a live service/update game and its still not as good as 4 or even a 1/10th good as new vegas
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The time 343 spends fixing their mistakes could have gone to adding new things that push the franchise forward but instead it has resulted in the franchise not really growing substantially since Reach. The first year and a half are supposed to be when the game is most active in terms of content updates but instead it is just 343 playing catch up on things we expected at launch. This isn’t even mentioning the negative effects this has on the community’s growth with only dedicated fans willing to stick around to see the game become great.
I don’t think it is healthy to praise them for fixing the games they launch broken especially this many times. It is genuinely the bare minimum and just encourages them to continue doing it as they feel as if they can keep getting away with it. We need to expect better and stop magically forgiving them each update they give us adding stuff that came day one in a 2010 game.
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H5 matchmaking was “flawless” on day 1?
Are we now in a world with alternate facts?
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It was tho. That was one of the things that Halo 5 was praised for. Everyone was able to find matches unlike MCC. It also stayed 60 frames even on the older gen Halo 5 console. It worked and worked well at launch
Well Bethesda doesn’t exactly have the best track record for making their bad or mediocre games good. And they lost the story writer for arguably some of their only games that could match New Vegas in quality, so I don’t know why anyone hoped that 76 would turn around in time. But 343 does actually have a track record for improving poor launches if given enough time.
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I agree that it will get fixed and it will be better. Just have to ride the wave the gaming situation currently.
I’m not praising them for making things broken, I’m praising them for actually caring because apparently that’s the standard now.
I don’t have any evidence to support this, but I really do think they care about the franchise and want to make it good, they’re just terrible at game launches, as the title says.
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Halo games have always been made with the idea of it lasting a long time and their development times reflect that so I doubt 343 could abandon a game even if they wanted to. The reason why you tend to see it more with other FPS games like COD and Battlefield is because they are produced much more frequently so if one game flops it won’t be long until the next one. Now that isn’t me saying no one cares at 343 or that they wouldn’t still fix the games they make if this wasn’t the case but it just isn’t all that surprising or praiseworthy that they don’t abandon their games.
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Well it comes down to the leadership, if the leaders at 343 don’t care, the game won’t be good; if they do then it has a better chance. Though, it is harder to find a company that does care because all most businesses only care about getting cash, to me at least.
You look at the mods that people have made and those seem to be thriving much more, why? Because the creators really care about the product and the people who play it.
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How much time is enough time?
They already got a year and then some and still they delivered a broken product.
A 7th grader probably could write better matchmaking code what what was delivered here.
I certainly was no match for my teachers when it came to programming while I was i 7th grade. Of course that could just be an indication how low the level of qualification of those so-called teachers was.
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That’s pretty cool. What time-period and technology was that? If your comfortable sharing that of course.