I hope that they can deliver the game that Infinite was supposed to be, before everyone is gone.
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Other than BTB and melee registration, broken how, exactly?
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You can defend Halo Infinite without pulling a āthis is fineā meme.
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Thatās part of why Iām voicing concerns. I think the core gameplay is great. I think in time Infinite will be my favorite Halo. Their team does seem honest and concerned from what Iāve heard. And a 10 year cycle is more than enough to improve. If I didnāt think there was solid core gameplay, it I thought the devs didnāt care, why would I say a word? Itād be pointless. They did a good job, and I know itāll get better. Still pretty rough right now though.
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Iām not saying what their doing is ājust okā. Its not. Iām no 343 bootlicker that will always trust them no matter how many times they mess up.
I donāt like to complain or give negativity, but I guess thatās unavoidable now.
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Agreed 100%. I hate how instead of just making a game, companies try to patch it all instead of making a working game to begin with.
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343i and Microsoft are more concerned about Halo than other publishers about e.g. CoD or BF, because Halo is THE flagship game of Microsoft and the only game of 343i. So the fact of trying to fix everything pretty fast, is no surprise for me.
It will be interesting, if this care of Halo will be kept up in the future, because Microsoft bought Activision/Blizzard and expanded there game repertoire in an immense way. Everyone is excited about crossovers like Doom/Halo, but I am more concerned, that Microsoft is not interested in investing in Halo that much anymore, because other games are way more profitable.
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I donāt agree about 343i being good at finishing content. If a game has to spend most of itās time updating games over time after the launch to be complete then itās not really something that should be praised. Right now the disc version of Halo Infinite has the least content of any mainline Halo series and they can slap random content as āupdatesā and that wonāt change that fact.
MCC may have been broken but it was playable and I could do most things fairly ok except for matchmaking stuff and that had plenty of content. While with Infinite as far as I can tell it has the bare minimum content and does not include splitscreen on the base game and never will do on disc because the game was rushed.
No I donāt believe they care about fixing things because they ignored the feedback on the last ābetaā and refused to delay the game any further leaving it in one of the worst states Iāve ever seen in any Halo game at launch and they lied about the progression system too.
They delayed before because everyone complained and they were going to release it in a worse state a year ago and Iām deeply concerned how less content there would have been if 343i didnāt listen and they had to do something because there reputation was on the line.
Right now Iām basically avoiding playing the game further at the moment because they havenāt listened and they havenāt cared about their fanbase and Iām not going to pretend they have when they only done minor changes and now weāre expected to wait till May for possible changes that may be good or bad.
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If their strength lies in finishing things later rather than on launch, then this game will be their prodigy. If not, then it will be broken. Time will tell.
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Woah, you never used to post like this before, what changed?
If they really cared they would have stopped releasing threadbare, broken games the first time. They left MCC for dead for years and only started to properly address any of its issues when they needed something to sell the Xbox One X and then again when they needed something to fill the void during Infiniteās disaster of a dev cycle.
Sorry I canāt give them credit for fixing what they released broken/unfinished years after the fact when they are still asking full price and then some for it now I donāt see any demonstrable difference between 343 or any of the devs/publishers mentioned.
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This topic is probably true. It may take 343i 3-5 years, but we will have a great product eventually. 
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Know what you mean and now that Infinite is out it feels like there abandoning MCC and now Iām concerned about cheaters in MCC and Infinite.
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I mean I did create the thread āwhy Halo 3 will always be #1ā or whateverā¦ Its in line with my way of thinking.
Iām overall torn between optimism and pessimism. Regardless, I think waiting years down the road to bring out your A game is a horrible idea, now its F2P so not crazy to think a F2P game can get back players (Gamepass games in general do this, so it has been proven to be the case even in regular games) but the gaming market is saturated with tons of games with huge amounts of content and large communities backing them, so it is difficult to imagine them growing their playerbase when the playerbase is a bunch of F2P gamers that have far better offers elsewhere.
This is irrelevant for Halo fans btw, Halo fans have shown that no matter what 343i do theyāll stick around, so I am confident itāll end up being awesome for a core audience of like 10k players lol, but I seriously wonder how many people itāll flatline to and if it will have any ability to draw in new players without Firefight or without a BR or without Forge and so on.
Edit: All the community at large has been talking about isnāt even new or interesting possibilities for Infinite going forward, all people are talking about is āhow do we make Infinite look/feel like Halo Xā but in reality it needs to be better than those games. It isnāt just good enough to have 10 maps for example, because standards have only risen and competition has only gotten more fierce in recent years. I donāt want Halo 3/Reach, Infinite would have to blow peopleās minds in order to be successful long term.
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It doesnāt matter for somebody like me who has been waiting since Reach for a proper Halo game. I donāt care about any of the other shooters on the market, theyāre irelevant when it comes to Halo.Itās just a shame it came in such a piss poor situation and needs time to become what it should have been day 1.
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I mean have you tried MCC? 
Regardless, open your mind to other experiences lol. a decade is a long freaking time to wait for something. Lots of awesome games to enjoy today.
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No shade at you, I just remember you being on the other side of the coin is all. Iām pretty sure most of the things you just mentioned are what I had been telling you when the forum had just updated and you were totally opposed to them 
But in truth, it is too late to fix any damage done. Mark my words; the game will never have 200000 players at once ever again. It will shoot up and down surely, but the window of opportunity to have such a massive player base is most gone.
you say that but theyāve treated halo infinite nothing but a live service of money making, id rather go back to reach with its launch being the best and treating the entire game as a thing that will go on without support instead of āsowwy our updwate bwoke big tweam bwattle, heres 5 bucksā
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Yes, I played MCC before and after patches. And I did play other FPS through the years,doesnāt mean any of them were fun enough for me to play more than a month or a few tops. The longest I played was Overwatch, but that was because I had a group ā¦until they screwed the game,as blizard always does. The only fps I was and still am interested in is Halo to play in the long term but it seems I still have to wait . Not too bad,with Rimworld,Bannerlord and GP on Xbox I can wait.
Itās also got some backwards logic like the whole campaign not playable offline but the multiplayer is
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