They should continue to fix their game because that’s what’s expected of them. It’s their game. It keeps the player base alive. Unless they want to treat it like a business, then yea, I agree with you. The game is trash as a result. Especially the ones with crossplay. Halo 5 is a bad example too. Nothing was fixed in that game and everybody dropped it.
I am constantly reminded why I never bother coming here anymore and its because of trash posts like this. Just stop it, you’re embarassing yourself. Every game on the planet has had this monetization model for like 5-6 years now, where the hell have you been?
Not saying its a good model, but to act like this is some special case is hilariously stupid
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halo infinite isnt a rip off of halo 5 and is a fun game and is free to play so its much better than EA
Lulululul. Now that plenty time has passed. I never said that they were EA, I said new EA.
What does this mean?
What did EA do?
- EA took and monetized gameplay with loot boxes. (Far worse)
What did 343 do?
- They took a free feature of the game that was beloved by a lot of people and monetized it.
How does this compare to EA?
How are they different?
- It’s not locking game play behind a pay screen wall.
How are they the same?
- Both took a portion of the game that was free and monetized the crap out of it. Both are equal in terms of crappiness no matter how you slice it.
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Now, I saw a comment “It’s free to play” again. That literally means nothing here. I don’t care if monetization is in a game tbh, what I care about is balance and there was no balance.
The game has a long way to go still. It’s still a shell of what it should be.
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Now I want to thank you all for commenting. It was more of a bait title anyways to get people to talk and it worked. Monetization should be talked about and combated to a degree.
Sadly the new generation of gamers and even some older ones now are so use to seeing monetization that they no longer try to fight it. This post was to gain traction even if you disagreed with it and it worked. People talked.
Though as some of us already stated. We go a bit bullish in here, BUT we all love the game, and are gamers to our core. We want the game to get better regardless of our disagreements. At the end, we all cool with each other.
Remember that, because if not, there is the door.
Most people are not smart and don’t understand how a free to play game works.
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No, not every game has. I don’t play a lot of FPS games, but I do play a lot of games in general. Dark Souls III, Elden Ring (from the looks it), The Outer World’s, Civ VI, Biomutant, Cyberpunk, Subnautica Below Zero, these are just a few games I’ve played recently, and they don’t have anything near this level of monetization. And the first two do have extensive multiplayer components, so they aren’t all just single player. Many of them have received updates for years, such as Civ VI, which also has a huge multiplayer community. The update process in that one was supported by Leader Packs and Expansions, not microtransactions. So no, not all games have this type of monetization. Even games that have received support for years.
I’m not trying to shill but I don’t think it’s 343. It’s more of marketing/Microsoft taking over the reigns. My schizo theory is that Microsoft looked at the delay and said to the studio heads, monetization or your jobs take your pick, and the heads did the smart thing and kept their jobs. I’m just glad theirs such a huge amount of backlash and they’re “looking at changes”. Hopefully something good comes of it. Either way other than the $20 I spent when they game first dropped im not spending anymore.
I don’t get this logic here like at all
EA: locks gameplay engine paywall and has loot boxes and got into legal trouble
343: locks armor (that doesn’t do anything) behind paywall and nothing else
Some how what I put here means 343= new EA how?!
Like I’m not a fan of the armor in the store either but this isn’t EA levels like not even close
Plus the backlash of this is gonna result in changes for this what those are who knows but to say 343 is the new EA I have to hard disagree and yes they did loot boxes in h5 but I’m let you on a secret there is a way to bypass all that rng
Simple really just stay in one tier of the packs until you get the points only once then you move to the next tier rinse and repeat and you have the unlocks with out the rng bs
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Jeez, this topic discussion is getting out of hand. What’s going on? I can’t comprehend the lengthy wall of texts and I don’t feel like going through everyone’s comment.
Give me the TL;DR summary please
Op thinks that since armor is behind paywall it means 343 is new EA which as you kinda see is not the case by far
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Yeah I don’t think they really are EA. Just they need to hear our voices from the community about armor customization and such if they want to succeed.
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they have its kind hard to not hear these noise most recent livestream they did talk about th e store will get fixed along with customization and how to unlock them that isn’t form the paywall
and I agree it’s not near EA levels of monitinzation its still sucks but not near the level of EA
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Okay… again they took something that has been free in all other halo games and monetized it. It’s a move EA would make. Hence them becoming the new EA
My point is that it is as crappy as locking stuff behind loot boxes because of how they went about it.
When you have to come out and apologize that you screwed up and how you commercialized things there is an issue.
Is the mp f2p? Yes. However you still charged $60 for the campaign. As someone who went to college for game design, and understand the weight of making a game I understand the move. However Halo is a 20 year old franchise. You don’t completely monetize the crap out of the mp to hope to make money. It was going to caused a backlash, one they were not expecting to slap them this hard.
They needed balance and there was none. This is not fortnite and shouldn’t be treated like a game that came out of nowhere. Make money, but don’t completely screw over your community.
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and again does it suck yes but is it EA level? no
plus they are gonna change the store and how we unlock armor that isn’t from the store if it was EA it’d be nothing at all
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I disagree. EA changed completely how Battlefront 2 was monetized, and now a lot of people really like it. Even EA realizes that sometimes it’s best to make the community happy.
all it took was legal action fro them to get their heads out of their butts
They changed it because they got caught.
Yeah they’re changing it, but it’s a conversation that should never had to happen. We all understand it sucks. But to say, yeah it sucks, just don’t buy it, fixes nothing because there are people that will. Gotta make waves to get things to change.
I believe it is an EA level move, something I rarely say. (I don’t even think Fortnite monetization is EA level). Fortnite came out of nowhere and exploded. I might not like it but I wouldn’t deny what it did and faced.
Halo however is a different story.
and again how is saying this is a EA level when its just appearance changes yes its a overused excuse but its the truth with EA they locked GAMEPLAY behind a paywall here there no locked gameplay anywhere
pal you just think that anything thats payed its automatically a EA level thing instead of looking into this you just blanket _____ is the new EA and not research things
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The legal action they faced over loot boxes actually could just as easily apply to Halo 5. Every argument against them, that they’re games of chance for items of perceived value, that they is no limit to how much someone can spend, etc. These all apply to Halo 5’s loot boxes. I agree with the other poster about them getting caught. But do you really Microsoft wouldn’t have tried loot boxes again if it weren’t for the legal backlash other companies got over them? And EA didn’t have to change their monetization system as much as they did.
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… I just said I don’t think Fortnite is EA level