343 and Microsoft is the new EA

With Halo 5 (warzone) they locked gameplay content behind loot boxes. They have done it before.

see thats one fact now why is hart to say the same here? the facts are there adn yet you just say no its the new EA

and its not here so that backlash helped

To take something, that has been free in all halo games. (Look at the MCC) and to monetize it, is a crappy move. Especially when you commercialize it to be free or better and it wasn’t.

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But they’ve done it before. I don’t think it’s fair to say they’re above it and act like they’re different than EA when in Halo 5 they resorted to the same tactics your saying EA did. They resorted to the same tactics that got EA in legal trouble. They aren’t above doing it.

yes the mcc armor was free but even that has a store with items in it that aren’t available and folks are Fien with that cause of the season points which after ranking up 100 times for free points is realized on the challenges

and is that same thing in infinte? no so thats that

LOL @ everyone saying this game doesn’t lock gameplay behind a paywall. Events and the challenge system are sitting there RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. This game makes you play how THEY WANT YOU TO PLAY…If…IF…you want ANY PROGRESSION at all. Stay woke tho. :expressionless:

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except the current one where its any challenge which breaks the they want us to play this or that way

But if we’re talking about how they’re the new EA we aren’t just talking about Infinite are we? EA never had loot boxes in every one of their games. If I point to an EA game that never had them does that mean EA isn’t EA? Does it mean EA is above loot boxes? No! So why does it matter that they aren’t in Infinite. They’ve done it before. They have stooped to the same levels EA did.

and stopped out of it why treat the armor in the store as its a EA level yes it sucks we all hate it but when you look at it while its a prat of halo does ti affect anything other then looks? no so why saying its the new EA when this isn’t close

any case I made my point so many times and others have as well im leaving this this post cause its going no where

They stopped after other companies got into legal trouble for doing the exact same thing.

or they saw it and went ‘yeah lets not get into legal trouble and not do that’

Yeah! They didn’t stop because they were above it. They stopped to avoid getting into the same legal trouble. They aren’t better than EA. Look, I still bought the battle pass. I still have a subscription to game pass. And I still buy EA games. I’m not saying you can’t like their content. Please, enjoy it. But both companies are out to get as much money as they can by any means necessary, and they’ll use every legal tactic they can. It doesn’t make them evil, it makes them a corporation. Which by the way have an obligation to make money. You can like what they make, but you don’t have to act like one company is better than the other when they’ve both resorted to the same tactics.

Then what’s the point of this post if we come to this? Nothing

The point is they are willing to resort to the same tactics. A lot of the hate EA gets is for crap other companies pull. The point in my opinion is the companies really aren’t that different.

In terms of monetization sure, since it’s f2p and they don’t know how to price it. But the game is amazing which is something EA seems to be unable to do.

I don’t know. I think EA can make a good game still. I know it wasn’t super recent, but I’m a big fan of Dragon Age III. I don’t think they handled the more open world design perfectly, but I don’t think 343 did in Infinite either. And with the expansions they gave us more linear and structured levels which received a lot of praise. A different kind of game, I know, but I do think EA can still make quality games.

Also, while it did take awhile, I think the Sims 4 is in a pretty great place now (it is really monetized though). As is Battlefront 2. Their sports games I wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole though.

The issue is a balance. In some sick sense Halo 5 loot boxes still had balance as you could play to add up points and honestly you didn’t need those items every game. Though it was a bad move either way.

The issue this time was it was 99% monetization with the armor. Not to mention how they commercialized it before launch.

This post was made hours before they went live to. Probably wouldn’t have call them EA level at that point. But it was what they were trying to do. When Ske7ch said what he said about monetization that was the last nail in the coffin for a lot of people. That when I read it as money> above quality.

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Lets not forget, the online is free, and they’re purely cosmetic, the company need to pay their bills somehow