It’s actually $30 because you have to get the armor core from the $10 battle pass to even use the $20 armor set.
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That’s taking the quote too literally. But fine I can work with that.
Not sure how pc works, but I’m sure you can mod your own spartans appearance. Just like having your own coffee machine at home, it’s not going to be the same high quality like you would get from the store. But it’s cheap.
I get the venting honestly but F2P and cosmetic prices aren’t leaving. No body is happy about that. What should be discussed is how we can work with this system to benefit the consumer more
It was my favorite suit in Reach.
It’s my favourite suit in all of Halo.
What do you suggest I do?
Microsoft owns the company that run the Halo servers.
If you really like the suit then buy it. It’s just $25, and if it’s your favourite suit in all of Halo are you really going to change it down the road?
Halo 3 runs on P2P servers which are significantly cheaper to maintain than dedicated servers
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Why should I?
I already paid £55 for the campaign. I paid £7 for the battle pass.
That’s more than the ENTIRE cost of Halo 3 or Halo reach.
In those games you got campaign, co-op, multiplayer, file share, forge, custom games that worked, theater that worked, firefight, armour, colours, playable elites, at least twice as many game modes as Infinite.
And guess what, you could unlock all the armours.
People don’t get it. They think it doesn’t effect gameplay. Yes it does. When they take out features as simple as choosing colours that have been in since CE?!
We have to pay the price of a FULL game to get one set of armour.
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Halo 3 had 10 armor sets to unlock. It also wasn’t graphically as powerful as Infinite.
What did you get for buying the campaign? Did you not get your moneys worth because you didn’t unlock a 100% optional cosmetic in a video game? How does this affect gameplay of these things don’t change how the game plays…
Since infinite has a higher poly count on it’s models and higher resolution textures that means it’s worth gutting the majority of features in past games?
I would even argue that Halo 3 still looks and sounds better than Infinite.
I am the kind of gamer that likes to collect everything. Halo got me into it, I 100% all the achievements to get the EOD and Hyabussa armour. I even did the vidmaster challenges to get Recon.
This was a great way to get me coming back to campaign and making me feel like i’d really done something when I finally unlocked it. That’s how it effects gameplay.
The point is, Infinite is £55 for a single player campign. Halo 3, Reach, even 4 and 5 gave you way more. For way less.
The only way I can “unlock” a set of armour designed for a game that came out over 10 years ago is to pay?
I can get the Witcher 3 for £5 more. Can you not see how this is madness?
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That’s a non-answer.
The whole point is that if for whatever reason i343 lowers the prices, you’re benefitting from it by getting cheaper options, despite being here going on about standards and discouraging others from participating.
The prices aren’t going away?
So you would be fine with having the store filled with +20$ items while everyone else who didn’t defend the pricing and practices get a permanent discount.
Among other things, lowering the prices?
In a similar sense, if i343 / Microsoft see people paying what they pay, why would they change the system to benefit the consumer more?
Telling others prices aren’t leaving, “it’s free”, and being counter-productive to the topic isn’t going to help.
Comparatively to it’s respective year?
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The store Offerings aren’t even worth it. They are basically reselling you the same thing multiple times, god knows how many times the same red Armor coating was sold. Which was it oh yeah the Scarlet wake but they locked it to one Armor core. Than they tried selling you the same red again for the reach armor. Not to mention them trying to re sell you Cadet Blue for Yoroi armor.
There is nothing creative about taking the 48 colors from Halo 5 and giving you 6 of them for free and locking the other 42 behind a paywall and drip feeding you those colors.
The whole store Offerings don’t reflect value that they are asking for. I mean what was this last one… The color brown…
That’s my main concern is the lack of creativity. Ots basically the equivalent of then releasing forge and taking half of the items one would get for free in previous forge and putting them behind paywalls.
Here’s forge, but half the ramps and the gravlift are going to be sold to you in bundles.
What people also don’t understand is once a new Armor core drops you have to re purchase all the same Coatings. So I’d advise people not to feed into the current monetization system especially if they re work it and you realized you just got screwed out of money just to have 4 of the same Coatings.
I’d say give it like 6 months before you actually engage with the store. But the store doesn’t equal to actual in game value for a 5 second clip of your spartan at the intro
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Whining and complaining isn’t going to help either. I’m having trouble understanding you when you make points like everyone should get a discount except me and would I be okay with that?
“NOOOO you can’t be critical of a product you live. You have to CONSOOM, be thankful and get ready to CONSOOM the next thing shoved in your face! You’re a toxic manbaby for daring to demand you be treated properly and not treated lile garbage”
I translated the replied to text if you couldn’t undersrand it
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These forums are literally created for people to complain. What’s pathetic is how much of an apologist you are for a multi-billion dollar company that is clearly manipulating people, many being kids, that do lack of self control. Many of these people they are targeting would be considered addicts if they were sitting in a casino instead of at a game console.
So yeah, go ahead and sip 343s -Yoink!- through a straw. I’m sure they will notice you and touch your hand for that. Maybe they will even ask you to the dance.
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This thread has devolved. Please lock it up.
How is what you’re doing in this thread any more productive? I’d even say it’s less productive if you keep going around trying to convince people that say they have a problem that they don’t have a problem. Not to mention this forum exists as an avenue for feedback, and feeling priced out is important feedback which 343 can’t otherwise directly receive if people don’t state it.
On top of that, “Just buy it” completely dismisses anyone’s financial reality if it doesn’t conform to your expectations, and takes up space that could be better spent on constructive alternatives to a system that obviously feels prohibitive to a lot of players, making the game less fun for a lot of players, and that’s harmful to the Halo community as a whole. Please try holding your fellow community members up and being supportive instead.
Let’s be real the HazOp set is not even cool enough to be worth more than $7.00, lol. As far as I’m concerned, I’d basically be buying the stance, the visor, and the knee guards.
It was a cheap reward in Reach because at least it was a separate option from the mk Vb. And here the monetization guy is like “Lol what if I just keep scamming them?”
Yes, he appears at the bottom of every post almost like a professional employee, complaining about everyone who puts forward opinions. 343 selectively ignoring the comments of the forum makes these people more rampant。
As an F2P game that needs long-term operation, this is a very significant harm. They don’t understand the difference between when a commodity is priced at $20, only one person in 100 will buy it, and when it is priced at $5, 20 people in 100 will buy it. In fact, we only really think about the future of the game. If I need to bring my friends to play the game, If he saw that an armor cost $20 instead of $5, he would be scared away. He would ask me, are you taking drugs? The in-house purchase of this game is so expensive
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Perhaps because it’s gotten to that point?
All of this was discussed in the old forum plenty of times.
High pricing, maniuplative marketing / tactics, minimal free items, creating problems and selling solutions.
That didn’t seem to have worked.
Better yet, remember the answers?
High pricing: “The REQ packs weren’t that expensive so why would they make things expensive in Infinite?”
Manipulative marketing / tactics: “The BP doesn’t expire, that’s a sign they’re not going to be manipulative”
Minimal free items: “There’s going to be loads of free items, just look at how many items Halo 5 has.”
Creating problems and selling solutions: “The BP isn’t going to expire so there’s not going to be any problems to sell solutions for”.
+20$ bundles, FOMO challenges rewards with rotating stores and expiring mini-BPs with no information on how often they return, one single armor set with barely anything to unlock after a month of play time except a timed event returning next year, 10 coats unlocked from the start, challenges were made to be what they were and BP progress was slow so we got Swaps and Boosts all over the BP and for sale in the store.
If by some miracle what was discussed before actually helped, I can’t imagine what kind of stuff they had planned initially. 40$ bundles with less items? 2 armor coats?
Discouraging the discussion.
Want things to change? Either participate in a manner which suggest you want things to change.
A price reduction would be a positive change, one which you’d directly benefit from even if you worked against it.
So, would you, be ok with everyone who went against the topics of price reductions going on about how it’s free and such, wouldn’t get a price reduction if everyone else would?
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I understand your point and I fall short on support as well I’m not perfect. My grip with all this is seeing people trying to change the inevitable. There’s a business for these kind of practices and the market shows with every game there is a lot of money to be made on this. 343 and Microsoft as a business are smart for capitalizing on this. Not saying they’re right, but they’re not this evil company a lot of people are making them out to be.
We know there’s no changing the fact that this game is F2P, so people complaining about this is a waste of time. Better question would be, how do we help change the system to better service the consumer. People have mentioned weekly deals, where certain armors can be half of. That is an idea I can stand behind. Another would be to let us earn credits in game, something I advocate for.