I really like the concept of Warzone with 24 players plus AI bots. Like a mix of BTB and Firefight. Great idea we have suggested for many years. Similar to Titanfall and quite a few other games. Couple important questions.
Will Warzone have JIP? Its truly an absolute must IMO. Without JIP its going to be TMCC BTB all over again. Quitters and unbalanced teams and miserable.
Will warzone be ranked? If it does not have JIP then it MUST be ranked. Otherwise TMCC BTB all over again.
Will warzone kick players that are afk for more than 2-3 minutes?
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> What the hell is JIP?
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> and BTB gametypes have always been for more casual players, I personally would like to keep it that way.
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> > What the hell is JIP?
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> > and BTB gametypes have always been for more casual players, I personally would like to keep it that way.
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> Join in progress
Never heard it said like that before. I won’t really mind if it has “JIP” or not.
I absolutely hate JiP, but in this gametype it would only make sense. (more than ranked)
But make it at least so people can either turn it ON or OFF for themselve. People than dont mind it and want fast games can turn it on and people like me that dont want to join into lost spawntrap games can turn it off.
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> I really like the concept of Warzone with 24 players plus AI bots. Like a mix of BTB and Firefight. Great idea we have suggested for many years. Similar to Titanfall and quite a few other games. Couple important questions.
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> 1. Will Warzone have JIP? Its truly an absolute must IMO. Without JIP its going to be TMCC BTB all over again. Quitters and unbalanced teams and miserable.
> 2. Will warzone be ranked? If it does not have JIP then it MUST be ranked. Otherwise TMCC BTB all over again.
> 3. Will warzone kick players that are afk for more than 2-3 minutes?
Ranked?, doesn’t need it.
But Join In Progress should be added as an ‘option’ in all playlists so it be up to the player to just join a BTB game like helping a friend out instead of waiting for their game to end.
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> I absolutely hate JiP, but in this gametype it would only make sense. (more than ranked)
> But make it at least so people can either turn it ON or OFF for themselve. People than dont mind it and want fast games can turn it off and people like me that dont want to join into lost spawntraps games can turn it off.
I agree with this actually perhaps Warzone will need JIP but like you said I think players should have a choice as to whether or not they want to be able to JIP themselves or not.
I actually feel this would be the 1 game type that must have Jip. Regardless of bks feeling useful by killing small grunts, or anyone feeling down, people will still quit. I don’t think this will be needed for such a huge playlist.
Nice to see the majority are liking the idea of JIP in Warzone. Warzone is leaning toward a combination of Battlefield 4, Titanfall, and Halo BTB. BF and TItanfally have JIp and it works extremely well. Without JIP I honestly see this as a miserable experience in H5. I also agree that as long as it has JIP, then it does not need ranked at all. In fact this would be better unranked because it would match much faster.
I absolutely love BTB in Halo and have grown up playing it 10+ years. But without JIP it can just be a miserable experience and its one of the top complaints over the last 10 years is players leaving or going AFK. Bottom line. If H5 does not have JIP in warzone I simply wont even think of purchasing H5. Something needs to change and JIP worked very well in Halo 4 BTB, BF4, and TItanfall along with many other games. It really must be in H5 since Warzone is clearly leaning toward a more casual chaotic fun experience.
Hopefully it kicks AFK players after 2-3 minutes. Like most other games do.
I would be extremely surprised if there wasn’t Join-In-Progress for Warzone. A large social game mode like that, as OP stated, needs it.
As for ranks, I’m 95% certain that someone from 343 (I think Josh Holmes) said that Warzone wouldn’t have its own ranking system, but that it would contribute to your SR - your overall, linear progression system. That sounds perfect to me. I still have an in-game incentive to play Warzone, because it will contribute to my overall rank, but I don’t have to worry about being super competitive all the time because it doesn’t have a playlist-specific rank. Wish I had a link for the source, but I read this a few days ago and forgot where.
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> I would be extremely surprised if there wasn’t Join-In-Progress for Warzone. A large social game mode like that, as OP stated, needs it.
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> As for ranks, I’m 95% certain that someone from 343 (I think Josh Holmes) said that Warzone wouldn’t have its own ranking system, but that it would contribute to your SR - your overall, linear progression system. That sounds perfect to me. I still have an in-game incentive to play Warzone, because it will contribute to my overall rank, but I don’t have to worry about being super competitive all the time because it doesn’t have a playlist-specific rank. Wish I had a link for the source, but I read this a few days ago and forgot where.
Oh yeah now this sounds great. If its like that and JIP then I will be extremely happy. That is actually very similar to what they did in H4. Along with H4 having JIP in BTB when the game first came out.
Now the next question which I just edited the first post and added… Will team killing be on? That topic has always been a tough one. I personally think in social it should be off. Should not be able to team kill in social game types.
I didn’t like the ranking for Reach or H4, so if it’s similar to those in H5 I’ll be unhappy as well. Join in progress? I’m sure we’ve been wanting that for a while in Halo- but the downside would be joining a match that is a guaranteed loss, mid-way through to the end and getting credited for the loss when it wasn’t your choice. So…I see the goods from both sides actually.
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> I absolutely hate JiP, but in this gametype it would only make sense. (more than ranked)
> But make it at least so people can either turn it ON or OFF for themselve. People than dont mind it and want fast games can turn it off and people like me that dont want to join into lost spawntrap games can turn it off.
Yes and yes.
JiP should only be available in social playlists, not ranked. That is 100% certainty.
I think for warzone it would be fine as long as only games that have at least 40% of the game left will allow players to join in progress. From looking at warzone, it doesnt look like getting spawntrapped slaughtered would be a problem. Between the size of the maps, the number of spawn options and the AI getting in the way, i think it would be impossible to force spawns to only a certain area and/or cover all the available spawn points with any kind of certainty.
Most gametypes include a afk kick penalty so it wont be a surprise that it will be added in warzone. You also need to note that with the REQ packs it will cause a lot of unfair ranks that are easily achieved through better weapons that other players never even heard of yet. So ranked is probably not an option. As for JIP its kind of iffy, I wouldnt mind it but you also dont want a whole team of idiots that are watching a live streamer to join in and ruin all the fun.
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> All I’m going to say is that due to Req Packs it will not be and must never be ranked it IMO is just not a suitable gametype for ranks.