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> > > > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> > > I’m definitely excited and it looks good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a higher player count.
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> > I read somewhere that they also touched on a gamemode bigger than BTB. I never played halo 5, but I could see a warzone 2.0 with bigger lobbies being a possibility.
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> > Though I’m still hoping someday for a battlefield like gamemode with 100 players lmao. Someday…
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> 24 is pretty limiting for this generation of gaming if thats the max tbh. I hope there is at least a 36 player mode available, WZ 2.0 would be interesting.
I think the same thing, 24 is really a low number compring other games.
But honestly I prefer a balanced and secure game (anticheat) rather than a HUGE playlist mode.
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> > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> I’m definitely excited and it looks good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a higher player count.
Though I think 8v8 was enough. A 16v16 would make more sense than a 12v12.
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> That would be intresting, if that happens, hopefully the maps are fun and large. One of the reasons why Sandtrap in halo 3 was my favourite map.
Halo 3’s big team maps are my favorite. Sandtrap, Avalanche, Valhalla, Rat’s Nest etc. So much fun in all game types!
Happy that there will be proper non-Forge BTB maps this time
Though wonder if BTB is intended to be the biggest most chaotic casual mode this time, or if there’s still something even bigger like Warzone
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> Happy that there will be proper non-Forge BTB maps this time
> Though wonder if BTB is intended to be the biggest most chaotic casual mode this time, or if there’s still something even bigger like Warzone
Original BTB maps coming back is HUGE. That alone has me super excited for multiplayer.
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> Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
Agreed. My favourite aspect of BTB is always that I feel less pressured to perform well than I do in a 4v4 environment.
Im used to games where its 5v5 or 6v6, 4v4 feels pretty small comparatively and makes underperforming feel worse because unless your team can compensate you dont feel very good.
BTB is where I can chill even if my score is technically negative or not that high. Im not going for 100 kill matches.
Also it seems they got the hint from Warzone that whilst 24 player action was fun, some parts of it arent as fun (and lets not even mention REQs)
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> Happy that there will be proper non-Forge BTB maps this time
> Though wonder if BTB is intended to be the biggest most chaotic casual mode this time, or if there’s still something even bigger like Warzone
It’d be a shame to lose Warzone outright, they could remodel it into something akin to Invasion IMO but Invasion as we knew it isnt returning obviously.
I think 24 is fine for BTB. Truthfully, the dynamic of whether or not Big Team feels “Big” in Halo has more to do with how big the maps are and how they’re set up than it does the raw player count, IMO. As others are saying, 8v8 BTB has often felt tremendously large-scale and awesome all the way back to the H3 days. 12v12 will allow for maps that can be effectively scaled at 50% larger than the best legacy BTB maps. That should provide a lot of frantic fun and plenty of variety in engagements.
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> > > > > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> > > > I’m definitely excited and it looks good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a higher player count.
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> > > I read somewhere that they also touched on a gamemode bigger than BTB. I never played halo 5, but I could see a warzone 2.0 with bigger lobbies being a possibility.
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> > > Though I’m still hoping someday for a battlefield like gamemode with 100 players lmao. Someday…
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> > 24 is pretty limiting for this generation of gaming if thats the max tbh. I hope there is at least a 36 player mode available, WZ 2.0 would be interesting.
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> I think the same thing, 24 is really a low number compring other games.
> But honestly I prefer a balanced and secure game (anticheat) rather than a HUGE playlist mode.
Actually I’d prefer bigger lobbies even if It meant -Yoink- anticheat I would kill to have a battlefield size lobby in halo lmao
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> Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> > Happy that there will be proper non-Forge BTB maps this time
> > Though wonder if BTB is intended to be the biggest most chaotic casual mode this time, or if there’s still something even bigger like Warzone
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> It’d be a shame to lose Warzone outright, they could remodel it into something akin to Invasion IMO but Invasion as we knew it isnt returning obviously.
I dug H5’s Warzone a lot but I can see why they’d scrap it. It basically was just “expanded big team battle” and a lot of times even I didn’t care about getting points. But 100% I’d be there if it ever came back.
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> Happy that there will be proper non-Forge BTB maps this time
> Though wonder if BTB is intended to be the biggest most chaotic casual mode this time, or if there’s still something even bigger like Warzone
i agree 100% with you.
and i hope there are also not any forge map coming in the future to the BTB playlist since that was a big problem i got with halo 5 that it was more forge maps then developer make maps
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> > > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> > I’m definitely excited and it looks good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a higher player count.
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> I read somewhere that they also touched on a gamemode bigger than BTB. I never played halo 5, but I could see a warzone 2.0 with bigger lobbies being a possibility.
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> Though I’m still hoping someday for a battlefield like gamemode with 100 players lmao. Someday…
Could happen someday since it’s a live service game but glad 343i are continuing to support campaign and multiplayer…unlike EA where they abandoned the campaign fanbase with the recent Battlefield. Though I’m not sure how they’d balance a 100 players playing Halo at the same time since be hard to counter that many people shooting and I’m glad there not doing battle royale.
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> > > > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> 24 is pretty limiting for this generation of gaming if thats the max tbh. I hope there is at least a 36 player mode available, WZ 2.0 would be interesting.
I’m all in for a larger scale mode and while an 18 vs 18 or even higher would be exciting I sadly cannot advocate for the idea for HI on launch. (Maybe in future later updates )
The biggest contention is how halo sandbox is originally designed for (4v4 arena) being put in maps with a much larger playspace due to maps needing to accommodate for player size. Those weapons designed for 4v4 arena won’t work as well in an 18v18 leading to some of the sandbox being nullified or just off. On the bright side, those weapons can be tweaked or adjustments on map design but that would take time & resources from 343.
Even Halo 3 BTB, has this issue where some weapons just didn’t feel right or not useful, “Standoff” is one of the clearest examples of this.
Finally, the point of this post is to not discourage the possibility of a larger scale battle but rather take in the account the obstacles 343 has to go through.
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> > > Oh my god the battles of 12v12 players will be amazing. Glad to see they’re putting love into one of my favourite game modes :)))
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> > I’m definitely excited and it looks good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping for a higher player count.
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> I read somewhere that they also touched on a gamemode bigger than BTB. I never played halo 5, but I could see a warzone 2.0 with bigger lobbies being a possibility.
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> Though I’m still hoping someday for a battlefield like gamemode with 100 players lmao. Someday…
12 v 12 is heaps. It’s hard enough to co-ordinate 8 players on your team… let alone 12… or more.
And at some point it just becomes redundant as you just don’t come across team-mates (especially those in your party) as they get spread out over bigger and bigger maps.
By all means make it feel like a bigger battle. Lots of background noise and action. Even the occasional ship crashlanding or random mortar fire etc.
I’m ok with replacing warzone with big team battle 12 vs 12 that one map looks awesome 75% of the community and fans have been asking for a bigger mode of like 24 vs 24 if they added a mode 24 vs 24 after launch in a couple years fans and community have been asking for it we should get it post launch with pelicans that can shoot please 343 industries the fans have been asking and the community make it one of post launch in couple years on up there in top of your list and please Studio Head Bonnie Ross and have custom games up to 48 players on forge maps that would be awesome be interesting!!
I would kill to have a battlefield size lobby in halo lmao