1v1 octogon as a playlist.

Games Other Halo
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Im sure many people want a 1v1 playlist since everyone likes calling out 1v1s so wouldn’t it be nice to have a Octagon playlist?! “thats wht custums R for derp derp”, well yes but it would be nice to have a ranking in it to see how you stack up and great practice for aiming. I would enjoy it becuase i would like to keep track of my win percentage and keep on trying to make it better as well as my overall k/d, if these progress then obviously you have been getting a bit better on your drm/br skills.

The matchmaking story is based off the unsc and having members train as red or blue spartans, so why not have some 1v1 combat training. We got action sack and griffball which is fun but silly so why not a good 1v1 playlist that we won’t have to worry about camping?

Playlist options.
1v1 DMRs on X map
1v1 BRs on X map
1v1 Snipes on X map

or maybe a playlist with both snipes and rifles.

Any thoughts?

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Maybe mix it with FFA? So if you join a lobby with say 8 people, and you vote for 1v1, then you get split into 4’s based on skill and then battle? A play list is probably unnecessary.

Also, 1v1 is a custom match thing :smiley:

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> Maybe mix it with FFA? So if you join a lobby with say 8 people, and you vote for 1v1, then you get split into 4’s based on skill and then battle? A play list is probably unnecessary.
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> Also, 1v1 is a custom match thing :smiley:

Increasing you win percentage and k/d in a octagon playlist would be awesome, as well as getting your 50 or onyx in halotracker in a 1v1 octagon playlist. I know its a customs thing but why not bring it into matchmaking, everyone has done 1v1s. Just to see how you match up with the world. most 1v1s come about by angry people and people in customs but this gives you a chance to play someone you don’t know. Not everyone wants to stop playing some 4v4 just to join your practice custom, this way you can find people quick.

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Octagon? If I want a 1v1, I play on a proper map. I’ve personally never seen real use for Octagon. It’s mostly a dumbed down version where every other skill is removed so it boils down to who gets the first kill, who has the better aim and who gets lucky and spawns behind the other. So no, I see no place for Octagon in matchmaking. Personally, I believe such a playlist would suffer from a very low population.

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This isnt a bad idea. though halo has typically ben more about the teamwork. Thats atleast as i understand/see it. One thing to be carefrul is asking for too many playlist and not having having enough population to fill them adequately. Also, take a look at q2 the edge 1v1. It allowed alot of different playstyles without luck, with the better player prevailing. Whether it was through better map knowledge, better aiming, or better timing of the various powerups… I would prefer a dedicated map thats meant for 1v1 with possible escape routes and not get borked because you spawned with a person behind you.

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> Octagon? If I want a 1v1, I play on a proper map. I’ve personally never seen real use for Octagon. It’s mostly a dumbed down version where every other skill is removed so it boils down to who gets the first kill, who has the better aim and who gets lucky and spawns behind the other. So no, I see no place for Octagon in matchmaking. Personally, I believe such a playlist would suffer from a very low population.

you just said :it boils down to who has the better aim" well no sh$t that is the point. But you have just as much of a chance as them. Well all these other dumb stuff coming in like instant respawn and progression system so whats wrong with adding a playlist that everyone has done in customs, octogon is very popular in customs so maybe it has a chance in MM, reach playlist have come and gone we could just give it a shot and if it doesn’t work remove it.

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> This isnt a bad idea. though halo has typically ben more about the teamwork. Thats atleast as i understand/see it. One thing to be carefrul is asking for too many playlist and not having having enough population to fill them adequately.

Yeah but the matchmaking story is based off a huge training program, so a 1v1 combat/aim training makes sense. I don’t want 20+ playlist in halo 4 cus i agree with you, but atleast its a nongimmick playlist, atleast in not asking for team jetpacks or team camo playlist.

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> > Octagon? If I want a 1v1, I play on a proper map. I’ve personally never seen real use for Octagon. It’s mostly a dumbed down version where every other skill is removed so it boils down to who gets the first kill, who has the better aim and who gets lucky and spawns behind the other. So no, I see no place for Octagon in matchmaking. Personally, I believe such a playlist would suffer from a very low population.
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> you just said :it boils down to who has the better aim" well no sh$t that is the point. But you have just as much of a chance as them. Well all these other dumb stuff coming in like instant respawn and progression system so whats wrong with adding a playlist that everyone has done in customs, octogon is very popular in customs so maybe it has a chance in MM, reach playlist have come and gone we could just give it a shot and if it doesn’t work remove it.

My problem with Octagon is that I see it as boring and pointless. And I truly wonder what’s the real popularity for Octagon. I really doubt it’s that popular amongst the general playerbase who are mostly casual players. But I admit, this is just personal bias more than anything, because I have a really strong opinion on the usefulness of Octagon.

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> > Octagon? If I want a 1v1, I play on a proper map. I’ve personally never seen real use for Octagon. It’s mostly a dumbed down version where every other skill is removed so it boils down to who gets the first kill, who has the better aim and who gets lucky and spawns behind the other. So no, I see no place for Octagon in matchmaking. Personally, I believe such a playlist would suffer from a very low population.
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> you just said :it boils down to who has the better aim" well no sh$t that is the point. But you have just as much of a chance as them. Well all these other dumb stuff coming in like instant respawn and progression system so whats wrong with adding a playlist that everyone has done in customs, octogon is very popular in customs so maybe it has a chance in MM, reach playlist have come and gone we could just give it a shot and if it doesn’t work remove it.

Fat Kid is a popular customs and it doesn’t have a playlist.

What I think tsassi means is that having good aim is only part about what makes you good skillfully at Halo, there are also other things to take into account such as awareness and skill ability against other weapons. Octagon is also partly about luck, its an open arena where people who spawn have an automatic advantage over the other player as they will see them first.

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What I think tsassi means is that having good aim is only part about what makes you good skillfully at Halo, there are also other things to take into account such as awareness and skill ability against other weapons. Octagon is also partly about luck, its an open arena where people who spawn have an automatic advantage over the other player as they will see them first.
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When i lose a 1v1 i will most likely always lose to that same person, no matter the luck or spawn, skill will eventually take its place.

Its not exactly about balancing it a playlist where you can see how you stack up in 1v1s aginst other people, if i have better reaction time and better aiming im going to win. i have been down 17-8 on a octagon and eventually won when i picked up my game and started trying. Someone that has a 44% win percentage vs someone with a 86% win, 86% win will probably have my bet. you said having a good aim is what makes you skillfully at halo, so this playlist is the one to show it. I myself would playlist and try to be at the top of the leader boards and increasing my win percentage as my goal.

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> > > Octagon? If I want a 1v1, I play on a proper map. I’ve personally never seen real use for Octagon. It’s mostly a dumbed down version where every other skill is removed so it boils down to who gets the first kill, who has the better aim and who gets lucky and spawns behind the other. So no, I see no place for Octagon in matchmaking. Personally, I believe such a playlist would suffer from a very low population.
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> > you just said :it boils down to who has the better aim" well no sh$t that is the point. But you have just as much of a chance as them. Well all these other dumb stuff coming in like instant respawn and progression system so whats wrong with adding a playlist that everyone has done in customs, octogon is very popular in customs so maybe it has a chance in MM, reach playlist have come and gone we could just give it a shot and if it doesn’t work remove it.
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> My problem with Octagon is that I see it as boring and pointless. And I truly wonder what’s the real popularity for Octagon. I really doubt it’s that popular amongst the general playerbase who are mostly casual players. But I admit, this is just personal bias more than anything, because I have a really strong opinion on the usefulness of Octagon.

There has been many playlist on reach that have come and gone, why not give it a shot? we can always get rid of it if it fails. But it could be a success who knows?

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> When i lose a 1v1 i will most likely always lose to that same person, no matter the luck or spawn, skill will eventually take its place.
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> Its not exactly about balancing it a playlist where you can see how you stack up in 1v1s aginst other people, if i have better reaction time and better aiming im going to win. i have been down 17-8 on a octagon and eventually won when i picked up my game and started trying. Someone that has a 44% win percentage vs someone with a 86% win, 86% win will probably have my bet. you said having a good aim is what makes you skillfully at halo, so this playlist is the one to show it. I myself would playlist and try to be at the top of the leader boards and increasing my win percentage as my goal.

I didn’t say it took no skill I just said there is an element of luck, as with all games, but only relying on a few factors of skill rather than a whole bunch, (that the MLG playlist does give) means that if you win, it does not give you a true value of how good you are at the game.

I would support a 1v1 playlist just not solely for Octagon, maybe 1v1 MLG Playlist, and have Octagon as one of the choices for maps. Then if Octagon was being chosen regularly then maybe make a separate playlist that happens every couple of weeks like the Double EXP weekend which I would personally like to return.

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It has to be a seperate playlist becuase its 1v1, and mlg is 4v4. Hockey,boom ball and hog race are gametypes that when finished it doesn’t show all your skills either. I never said it’s a playlist that shows all your skillsm just your 1v1 skills. It goes with the story of Matchmaking, Its competitive and a great way to increase your skills. Overall the Matchmaking story is just blue and red spartans training, why can’t a 1v1 close quarters rifle training not be part of the program.

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> Fat Kid is a popular customs and it doesn’t have a playlist.
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> What I think tsassi means is that having good aim is only part about what makes you good skillfully at Halo, there are also other things to take into account such as awareness and skill ability against other weapons. Octagon is also partly about luck, its an open arena where people who spawn have an automatic advantage over the other player as they will see them first.

Indeed, and while I personally sometimes weigh the importance of aim in shooter, because that’s the main thing of gameplay, the truth is that that shooting alone is only a very small part of the actual skill set. Cover and grenade placement combined can already turn the tide of a 1v1 encounter. Map movement skill and map knowledge can be a huge advantage over your opponent. So, in reality, while you quite possibly won’t win your opponent if you have a far worse aim than them, a lot of things can make a difference on a regular map.

As for the luck part, it’s not only luck I mean. The problem I’ve encountered with Octagon is that with a spawn time too short, the opponent you just killed will spawn before your shields recharge. If both are as good (as should be with a proper matchmaking system), they will beat you no matter what you do. The other problem is the whole spawn system. Now, I’m purely talking about Reach here. In that game, in Octagon, the spawn system very much works so that it first spawns you a few times into the exactly same spot, then it spawns you at some arbitrary location that is very likely to be behind the opponent’s back. So, at first it’s almost too predictable, then suddenly your opponent has a way too big of an advantage over you.

So, just from personal perspective, if I really were to have a 1v1 to test who is more skilled, the last place I would do it on is Octagon. I personally don’t have the best possible aim. I certainly wouldn’t call it bad, but it certainly can be improved. However, I perform much better when I actually get to use the map to my advantage. It allows me to utilize my skill set better.

So, technically, I have nothing against the playlist idea. If people want to have aim as the only factor of skill, that’s fine by me. However, on a personal level is where I have the problem accepting the playlist. Even if I wouldn’t need to play it, I wouldn’t like the idea of having one. So, it’s either that you try to convince me to believe that Octagon is actually a good place for a 1v1 or just hope that majority of people doesn’t share my opinion.

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Instant respawn, zero bloom, bottomless clip, DMR/Sniper Octagon is a great warm up. I could see it becoming a popular playlist.

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> > Fat Kid is a popular customs and it doesn’t have a playlist.
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> > What I think tsassi means is that having good aim is only part about what makes you good skillfully at Halo, there are also other things to take into account such as awareness and skill ability against other weapons. Octagon is also partly about luck, its an open arena where people who spawn have an automatic advantage over the other player as they will see them first.
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> Indeed, and while I personally sometimes weigh the importance of aim in shooter, because that’s the main thing of gameplay, the truth is that that shooting alone is only a very small part of the actual skill set. Cover and grenade placement combined can already turn the tide of a 1v1 encounter. Map movement skill and map knowledge can be a huge advantage over your opponent. So, in reality, while you quite possibly won’t win your opponent if you have a far worse aim than them, a lot of things can make a difference on a regular map.
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> As for the luck part, it’s not only luck I mean. The problem I’ve encountered with Octagon is that with a spawn time too short, the opponent you just killed will spawn before your shields recharge. If both are as good (as should be with a proper matchmaking system), they will beat you no matter what you do. The other problem is the whole spawn system. Now, I’m purely talking about Reach here. In that game, in Octagon, the spawn system very much works so that it first spawns you a few times into the exactly same spot, then it spawns you at some arbitrary location that is very likely to be behind the opponent’s back. So, at first it’s almost too predictable, then suddenly your opponent has a way too big of an advantage over you.
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> So, just from personal perspective, if I really were to have a 1v1 to test who is more skilled, the last place I would do it on is Octagon. I personally don’t have the best possible aim. I certainly wouldn’t call it bad, but it certainly can be improved. However, I perform much better when I actually get to use the map to my advantage. It allows me to utilize my skill set better.
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> So, technically, I have nothing against the playlist idea. If people want to have aim as the only factor of skill, that’s fine by me. However, on a personal level is where I have the problem accepting the playlist. Even if I wouldn’t need to play it, I wouldn’t like the idea of having one. So, it’s either that you try to convince me to believe that Octagon is actually a good place for a 1v1 or just hope that majority of people doesn’t share my opinion.

People think im saying it shows off all your skills. There are so many playlist in reach that require less skill than an octagon. Its just a SMALL PART of training red and blue sparts, since thats what the Matchmaking story is about, why does everyone miss this part.

We have rocket race, Boom ball, Dino blaster? They don’t take much skill at all.

If you are good at the 1v1 octagon playlist, then thats just what it is, ur good at octagon, im not saying it shows off all halo skills, if you want a regular map and team then you have plenty to choose from.

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No to Octagon, yes to a 1v1 Cage Match playlist.

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> It has to be a seperate playlist becuase its 1v1, and mlg is 4v4. Hockey,boom ball and hog race are gametypes that when finished it doesn’t show all your skills either. I never said it’s a playlist that shows all your skillsm just your 1v1 skills. It goes with the story of Matchmaking, Its competitive and a great way to increase your skills. Overall the Matchmaking story is just blue and red spartans training, why can’t a 1v1 close quarters rifle training not be part of the program.

I did say a 1v1 playlist just not with Octagon filling all of the map slots, it should offer a variety.

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> No to Octagon, yes to a 1v1 Cage Match playlist.

What the hell are you talking about clown. To much UFC for you.

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I can imagine the foreign hosts now…

Keep octashizzle to customs with friends.