15 missions actually mean 13 missions?

Yay! Halo 5 went gold :smiley:

So the stats they released of all the missions and stuffs says that Halo 5 will have 15 missions.
Well in the Halo MCC I noticed that for each campaign it always included the epilogue and the prologue as a mission
So in fact those campaigns were 2 missions shorter than what it said.
What also had me think this is that there are only 13 skulls. That would mean 2 missions don’t have skulls or there are only 13 missions.
AND there is roughly only 8-12 hours of gameplay on normal. Sounds like that could be 13 missions worth.

If there isn’t a total of 15 missions it isn’t the end of the world. Game still looks amazing.
What do you guys think?

OCT. 27 here we come!

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> Yay! Halo 5 went gold :smiley:
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> So the stats they released of all the missions and stuffs says that Halo 5 will have 15 missions.
> Well in the Halo MCC I noticed that for each campaign it always included the epilogue and the prologue as a mission
> So in fact those campaigns were 2 missions shorter than what it said.
> What also had me think this is that there are only 13 skulls. That would mean 2 missions don’t have skulls or there are only 13 missions.
> AND there is roughly only 8-12 hours of gameplay on normal. Sounds like that could be 13 missions worth.
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> If there isn’t a total of 15 missions it isn’t the end of the world. Game still looks amazing.
> What do you guys think?
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> OCT. 27 here we come!

Could be.

It makes sense if you look at the skulls.

Nope. Kamchatka is mission 1. So there’s atleast 14 out of 15 missions.

And technically, when Halo 4 came out, 343i confirmed it was 8 playable missions before launch (2 being an epilogue and prologue increasing the number to 10) so I wouldnt be surprised if the epilogue is tied to mission 15 like how Halo CE had no prologue/epilogue

I pretty much expect this to happen, but I don’t find to be all that big of a deal. 13 missions is plenty, especially if they’re long (which they’re said to be).

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> Nope. Kamchatka is mission 1. So there’s atleast 14 out of 15 missions.

First playable mission maybe.
Got any source that says for sure ā€œthis is mission 1ā€?

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Considering that this is the opening cinematic for the game which will lead to the first mission.

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Exact same thing I was thinking. Not a big deal though

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Check out the Blue team mission gameplay from the embargo awhile ago. They specifically state its mission 2. As in Mission 2, not playable mission 2 (or Mission 3 on the menu) and josh and frankie have confirmed on separate occaisions that the opening level is Kamchatka, which takes place before Blue Team.

One thing that past Halo games had even though the campaigns were shorter in length of time of completion compared to the 8-12 hours on Normal difficulty that we’re expecting out of Halo 5 is that those campaigns had a lot of narrative substance mixed in with the game play. There was always something apart of the missions that urged you to feel progressed about it and never along the lines of feeling utterly repetitive.

If Halo 5 is roughly 1/3 longer than even Halo 2/3s campaigns and it keeps at the very least the same amount of substance that those games offered (which looks by far that there is A LOT more substance due to the squad mate feature, enhanced sandbox style play with more routes of exploration and unique level geometry to mess around with), we’ll actually not only be running the 10 hour average (on Heroic difficulty for example when it comes to the competent player who wants to do some general exploration on the side while progressing), you’ll also be looking forward to much replay ability to experiment with different scenarios (like what would happen if you went this certain route and you sent your squad mates through another route).

Thus you’re actually going to probably spend around 16 hours total for 2 campaign playthroughs on Heroic difficulty alone to experience the various possibilities. For those that are going to venture into Legendary Difficulty… I wonder how long it’ll take for one playthrough.

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I’m not saying you’re wrong but I am saying you don’t know that this is 100% true
We haven’t seen anyone go from the main menu>campaign>mission one and start playing (as far as I know) so there could be something even before what we have seen that would count as a prologue.

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Blue Team is Mission 2. Every single source has said that. And 343i didn’t count the prologue/epilogue when the announced missions for Halo 4, so they probably wouldn’t here either.

Your still getting 8-12 hours of gameplay. It shouldn’t matter if 2 missions are shorter.

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I’m pretty sure this correct, just like with Halo CE. But I tweeted Josh, just for some clarity.

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> Considering that this is the opening cinematic for the game which will lead to the first mission.

If that’s all there is to Halo 5’s campaign intro, it’ll be the most confusing campaign to date.

It depends, they don’t specify but the way its presented makes me think 15 playable.

Didn’t Halo 2 have 13 playable?

Pretty sure a dev stated that there was a cutscene before the Osiris Opening though. I guess we’ll see at launch.

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It’s not. Frankie confirmed ages ago there’s more to it.

Based on the skulls I’d say you’re probably right. Would be kinda lame for them to count the prologue and epilogue as ā€œmissionsā€.

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That would make the cutscene prior to the Kamchatka mission intro the Prologue mission. See ā€œThe Hereticā€ and ā€œNoble Actualā€.

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That doesnt necessarily mean they’re different cutscenes