- the pelican at the end of fud is d79. The d79 did not exist at the time- why can Kelly run when you can’t in halo 1 through 3- the fud in halo 3 then the transformation to 4. It’s still the same class but is still the normal design in the movie fud- Mc armour “transformation”- In halo escalation d77’s appear but this is unknown if it’s “wrong” wich most of this is, it’s mostly speculation- fred wore mark iv b in fud but it didn’t exist- in halo legends the package the captain says will have no choice but to anialate the covy fleet, a prowler wouldn’t stand a chance- the sangheli language consist of warp warp warp and rrrrrrrrrg in halo 1,2 but not 4- in the games enemys are harder to kill then in the books and movies- pelicans can easily defend themselves in the books but have no chance in the gamespure speculation, if it’s wrong please feel free to tell me
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The D79 was noted as existing early in the war by 343i. At the time it likely costed more and was only in low-rate initial production. The D77 was an already proven design when the war began. It would have been easier to train and integrate new air crew with frontline squadrons, and augment squadrons with replacement airframes and parts like engines, thrusters, wings, landing gear, etc.
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Gameplay mechanics. Bungie didn’t find it necessary for Halo at the time.
3/4. Artistic liberties were taken for many things in Halo 4 in the transition between Bungie to 343 Industries. UNSC Forward Unto Dawn and John’s armor were two such things.
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The United Nations Space Command is a vast organization utilizing a myriad of different types of equipment and various models of those same types.
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The armor permutations introduced in Halo 3, then expanded upon in Reach and Halo 4, have been retconned into the early years of the war instead of all Spartans wearing the same standard MJOLNIR variant.
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A single nuclear-powered attack submarine today could annihilate an enemy fleet if it chose to do so. That captain might just have been speaking a little bit brazenly, but we don’t really know the anti-ship capability of attack prowlers. This particular boat in The Package was an experimental vessel that might have included high-yield offensive weaponry.
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Covenant languages were expanded upon in Reach from the simple English in previous games. Halo 4 is a continuation of that.
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That’s not exactly true. The Sangheili, Jiralhanae, and Mgalekgolo proved themselves to be wildly more capable opponents for even Spartans in the novels. With that aside, however, the games wouldn’t be all that fun if the Sangheili were as deadly as minor-grade Unggoy.
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The novels, comics, etc. aren’t weighed down by dramatic intent in the same way the games are. Plus they can get away with a lot more and speak true to the real capability of a futuristic multi-role aircraft than they can with the limitations of video games.
I always thought of John’s armour upgrade being the nanobots inside used by Cortana… I feel that was explained somewhere as well.
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> I always thought of John’s armour upgrade being the nanobots inside used by Cortana… I feel that was explained somewhere as well.
It was Halo 4: The Essential Visual Guide and the Halo 4 web site that mentions as much. Also I believe Frank O’Connor mention this as well at an halo fest or something.
The universe forum is degenerating like Precursor power. We need the mods to come in and do a sweep to establish what is and isn’t universe content. Majority of the threads belong in the general section.
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> The universe forum is degenerating like Precursor power. We need the mods to come in and do a sweep to establish what is and isn’t universe content. Majority of the threads belong in the general section.
The seventh question alone would warrant an entire thread here that could go on for days. Please do not come in here like you have with so many threads recently with totally unwarranted replies like this. The thread creator’s topic and questions are just as valid as any other here in this section. I suggest that you come into this particular conversation with a good attitude and insightful content to share with us. Not something to completely derail it.
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> The universe forum is degenerating like Precursor power. We need the mods to come in and do a sweep to establish what is and isn’t universe content. Majority of the threads belong in the general section.
This all has to do with lore and cannon it’s in the right place
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> 1. The D79 was noted as existing early in the war by 343i. At the time it likely costed more and was only in low-rate initial production. The D77 was an already proven design when the war began. It would have been easier to train and integrate new air crew with frontline squadrons, and augment squadrons with replacement airframes and parts like engines, thrusters, wings, landing gear, etc.
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> 2. Gameplay mechanics. Bungie didn’t find it necessary for Halo at the time.
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> 3/4. Artistic liberties were taken for many things in Halo 4 in the transition between Bungie to 343 Industries. UNSC Forward Unto Dawn and John’s armor were two such things.
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> 5. The United Nations Space Command is a vast organization utilizing a myriad of different types of equipment and various models of those same types.
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> 6. The armor permutations introduced in Halo 3, then expanded upon in Reach and Halo 4, have been retconned into the early years of the war instead of all Spartans wearing the same standard MJOLNIR variant.
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> 7. A single nuclear-powered attack submarine today could annihilate an enemy fleet if it chose to do so. That captain might just have been speaking a little bit brazenly, but we don’t really know the anti-ship capability of attack prowlers. This particular boat in The Package was an experimental vessel that might have included high-yield offensive weaponry.
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> 8. Covenant languages were expanded upon in Reach from the simple English in previous games. Halo 4 is a continuation of that.
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> 9. That’s not exactly true. The Sangheili, Jiralhanae, and Mgalekgolo proved themselves to be wildly more capable opponents for even Spartans in the novels. With that aside, however, the games wouldn’t be all that fun if the Sangheili were as deadly as minor-grade Unggoy.
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> 10. The novels, comics, etc. aren’t weighed down by dramatic intent in the same way the games are. Plus they can get away with a lot more and speak true to the real capability of a futuristic multi-role aircraft than they can with the limitations of video games.
As I said pure speculation but 7,6 I feel you’re prediction/fact is wrong. Mark IV B was not yet invented at the time and they didn’t all where the same armour but Fred has worn the centurion for a long time confirmed in fall of reach and first strike more specifically halo 2a terminals
You forgot about how the friendly allies are really stupid in game but in the lore they’re supposed to be the best of the best and the backbone of the UNSC.
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> You forgot about how the friendly allies are really stupid in game but in the lore they’re supposed to be the best of the best and the backbone of the UNSC.
They are pretty good shooters though, and can take a beating, something you don’t often see in other Halo media besides the games.
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> The universe forum is degenerating like Precursor power. We need the mods to come in and do a sweep to establish what is and isn’t universe content. Majority of the threads belong in the general section.
You have a report button - Use it like everyone else. Being snarky and underhanded is not constructive in the slightest and only serves to derail threads.
What is this thing with “it didn’t exist at the time”? How are you (or even we) supposed to know what exists or not in the Halo universe? Just because we never heard of a Mark IV(B) armor doesn’t mean it never existed. If 343i says there was a Mark IV(B) armor, then there was indeed a Mark IV(B) armor. It sounds like when people were complaining about the Spartan Laser being present in Halo Wars, because “it was invented just before Halo 3”. Well, no, this isn’t true at all.
There are of course some exceptions, for example there can’t be a Mark IV(B) armor if the story was set in the 2400s. But the Halo universe is very flexible. If you think you can give a source proving that the (B) armor only existed as a Mark V variant, then give the source, but, I don’t think you’ll find one. Next time, if 343i come up with a Mark VI Commando variant (thus far, it doesn’t seem that it exists), they will have the right to do so.
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> 8. Covenant languages were expanded upon in Reach from the simple English in previous games. Halo 4 is a continuation of that.
Don’t give Bungie too much credit. Covenant dialogue in Halo Reach is mostly gibberish consisiting of syllables and tons of u vowels. It was 343i that made Lekgolo, Sangheili and Unggoy speak a real language in Halo 4. The gibberish in Reach is not even consistent with Sangheili anatomy, physiology and their planet’s climate. It sounds like space English. Under 343i the language is just how a Sangheili would sound like.
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> - the pelican at the end of fud is d79. The d79 did not exist at the time
> - why can Kelly run when you can’t in halo 1 through 3
> - the fud in halo 3 then the transformation to 4. It’s still the same class but is still the normal design in the movie fud
> - Mc armour “transformation”
> - In halo escalation d77’s appear but this is unknown if it’s “wrong” wich most of this is, it’s mostly speculation
> - fred wore mark iv b in fud but it didn’t exist
> - in halo legends the package the captain says will have no choice but to anialate the covy fleet, a prowler wouldn’t stand a chance
> - the sangheli language consist of warp warp warp and rrrrrrrrrg in halo 1,2 but not 4
> - in the games enemys are harder to kill then in the books and movies
> - pelicans can easily defend themselves in the books but have no chance in the games
> pure speculation, if it’s wrong please feel free to tell me
- We don’t quite know when the D79 came into production. It could’ve been a prototype.
- You are just looking for an extra something to make it a list of ten since nine feels improper. Admit it.
- 343i’s choice that I also disagree on. Everything used before you meet Infinity should have been the old versions but I understand the cost to go and make stuff canonically correct
- Nanobots and rampant AI can do a lot in four years!
- Just because the D79 appears in Halo 4, does not mean older models are no longer used. Look an the Condor.
- Prototype perhaps, but many state they simply reused the live-action Reach stuff for Fred and Kelly, which makes sense since they are the same armor with different colors.
- I think he meant the flagship with Halsey at least. Or call in for backup and still loose.
- To make then more alien, in Halo 2 translators were introduced and simply never used in CE for some reason.
- The Covenant are still a menace in the books, but we see the full power of Spartans in there so they aren’t as much of one
- This I don’t understand either
There are some Pelicans that fight pretty well with their machine gun / missile launcher in Halo 3 / Reach, I don’t really see the problem. Most of the time in the games, Pelicans are used as transport vehicles or are destroyed for the sake of the story (To dramatize Foehammer’s death; so you can go save Johnson, etc). Questioning this kind of things is like asking why the Covenant didn’t just glass Voi when the Master Chief was liberating it, instead of defending the city.
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> There are some Pelicans that fight pretty well with their machine gun / missile launcher in Halo 3 / Reach, I don’t really see the problem. Most of the time in the games, Pelicans are used as transport vehicles or are destroyed for the sake of the story (To dramatize Foehammer’s death; so you can go save Johnson, etc). Questioning this kind of things is like asking why the Covenant didn’t just glass Voi when the Master Chief was liberating it, instead of defending the city.
Well there was a strong UNSC resistance in Voi, with all those air units.
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> > You forgot about how the friendly allies are really stupid in game but in the lore they’re supposed to be the best of the best and the backbone of the UNSC.
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> They are pretty good shooters though, and can take a beating, something you don’t often see in other Halo media besides the games.
They’re aren’t terrible but they do have their moments of stupidity. But if the Ai was somewhat more accurate then it wouldn’t be as fun since they could do most of the fighting and would sort of ruin the point of playing.
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> As I said pure speculation but 7,6 I feel you’re prediction/fact is wrong. Mark IV B was not yet invented at the time and they didn’t all where the same armour but Fred has worn the centurion for a long time confirmed in fall of reach and first strike more specifically halo 2a terminals
“After upgrading from Mk IV and Mk IV(b) variant MJOLNIR armor, Frederic utilized Mk V COMMANDO for much of his initial campaign on Reach. Upon moving to the Mk VI platform, he began field testing multiple variants of CENTURION-class MJOLNIR, including the incorporation of various prototype elements that formed the basis of the GEN2 platform.” - Fred-104’s biography from Waypoint’s Universe section
The differences in Master Chief’s armor across the games are just creative liberties the art team took. It is their game, and it’s beautiful, they shouldn’t have to worry about little things like that. Plus, imagine if the Halo 4 MC had the same armor that he did in CE? He wouldn’t look very stunning.
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> The differences in Master Chief’s armor across the games are just creative liberties the art team took. It is their game, and it’s beautiful, they shouldn’t have to worry about little things like that. Plus, imagine if the Halo 4 MC had the same armor that he did in CE? He wouldn’t look very stunning.
But they were given explanations and weren’t just overhauls in design. In Halo CE is was the MK 5 armor, in Halo 2/3 it was the Mk 6 and in Halo 4 it was the Mk 6 but Cortana messed around with it while he was in Cryo.
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> > The differences in Master Chief’s armor across the games are just creative liberties the art team took. It is their game, and it’s beautiful, they shouldn’t have to worry about little things like that. Plus, imagine if the Halo 4 MC had the same armor that he did in CE? He wouldn’t look very stunning.
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> But they were given explanations and weren’t just overhauls in design. In Halo CE is was the MK 5 armor, in Halo 2/3 it was the Mk 6 and in Halo 4 it was the Mk 6 but Cortana messed around with it while he was in Cryo.
I wonder how anyone else would feel if they were asleep for four years and a computer program decided to mess with my expensive exoskeleton that has kept me alive for years