1-Flag = No Fun

343, please remove 1-Flag from Anniversary playlists.

Players, in the meantime, please stop voting for 1-Flag, ha.

Reasons:

  1. The better team is established by the 2nd round.

  2. With Anniversary maps, spawn trapping is too easy.

  3. Players don’t use mics anymore.

  4. 2-Flag is just about the same thing but faster.

  5. Losing team loses players by 2nd/3rd round.

343, please don’t take the $40/20 we spent to play the Anniversary maps and waste our time with this gametype.

Who’s with me …!

EDIT: Can anyone respond to these 5 points, instead of just running on about how awesome you are at 1-Flag. This playlist belongs in customs only.

Speculative.

Me and a fine bunch of chums enjoy 1 CTF as well as the rest. It’s about variety and the “2 CTF is the same but faster” is a cheap excuse IMO. But that’s what opinions are for.

For just about every one of those opinions, I offer one myself: Rethink your strategy for 1 CTF or just deal with it. Sucks but that’s generally the tune that gets played.

> Rethink your strategy for 1 CTF or just deal with it.

If you get me on your 1-Flag team, chances are you’ll be short handed by the 3rd round. But since you and your chums seem so elite, I guess you won’t miss me, ha.

1 flag is awesome.
Granted, it’s not the best for symmetrical maps, but for something like Breakpoint, Zanzibar, Lockout, High Ground, etc. it makes the gameplay feel unique and awesome.

> 1 flag is awesome.
> Granted, it’s not the best for symmetrical maps, but for something like Breakpoint, Zanzibar, Lockout, High Ground, etc. it makes the gameplay feel unique and awesome.

You do realize that players will always post the opposite of what an OP is suggesting.

Say, if I suggest to stop team killing, the first 3 comments will be, “No way! Team killing is a huge part of Halo!!”

A 4-round gametype is a waste of time for a squad of strangers. It belongs in custom games, not matchmaking.

Hm, so you if you don’t like a gametype, it should be removed from matchmaking.

Hm. Interesting.

Think about this, if it was so unfun, why would people vote for it in the first place?

I personally find it fun, but that’s just me. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes when it comes to gametypes, just because you hate one, it doesn’t mean the whole world hates it as well.

If we were on the Bungie forums, I would say ‘Adapt’, but instead I’ll just say, suck it up, deal with it.

> Think about this, if it was so unfun, why would people vote for it in the first place?

It only takes two or three votes in a split vote, which is not even a majority.

> I personally find it fun, but that’s just me. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes when it comes to gametypes, just because you hate one, it doesn’t mean the whole world hates it as well.

It’s not about hating the gametype. It’s fine for customs. It’s a lopsided gametype and a waste of time–in matchmaking.

> If we were on the Bungie forums, I would say ‘Adapt’, but instead I’ll just say, suck it up, deal with it.

You make quitting 1-Flag more and more enjoyable.

Disagree. 1 flag types on Headlong and HEH are superb.

Not sure if troll…

When I think of classic Halo multiplayer, I think of 2 Flag. Balance be -Yoink!-, in many ways it was more fun on asymmetrical maps like Hang 'Em and Damnation.

> Not sure if troll…

Does a troll give you 5 reasons why this gametype is a joke in matchmaking?

Does anyone argue against them? No.

A 4-round gametype just doesn’t work. Players quit out. It’s a custom gametype, at best.

At least pull it out of Anniversary–or make an Anniversary objective playlist, and put it there. I didn’t buy this game to play 1-Flag.

And to prove how stubborn you guys can be, seriously–how different is 2-Flag from 1-Flag? The Halo population has gone down to practically nothing, and we can’t even figure out how not to turn off the players who are left?

2-Flag does all the gameplay at once. It’s faster, more streamlined, and if a team is good, they win it quickly. In 1-Flag, you drag out lopsided games for no real reason except your nostalgia that 1-Flag was fun back in 2009, and you don’t like to hear someone say a gametype should be eliminated.

There are 25 playlists currently, and 50,000 players … and you guys can’t figure out why your “1-Flag” mentality is helping to drive Halo into the ground? “Woah, we can’t lose that. That playlist is awesome!!” Seriously? Ha.

Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.

> Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.

The points I made in the OP aren’t opinion. They’re observations based on what happens all too often in a 1-Flag game.

Some of you posters use “opinion” and “speculation” in ways that don’t fit what you’re talking about. Maybe read the OP first, or learn what the terms are that you’re using.

> > Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.
>
> The points I made in the OP aren’t opinion. They’re observations based on what happens all too often in a 1-Flag game.
>
> Some of you posters use “opinion” and “speculation” in ways that don’t fit what you’re talking about. Maybe read the OP first, or learn what the terms are that you’re using.

I was referring to what you felt about 1-Flag and your personal experiences from which came your observations. I apparently have been more fortunate in that regard and thus have a positive viewpoint on the gametype.

> > > Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.
> >
> > The points I made in the OP aren’t opinion. They’re observations based on what happens all too often in a 1-Flag game.
> >
> > Some of you posters use “opinion” and “speculation” in ways that don’t fit what you’re talking about. Maybe read the OP first, or learn what the terms are that you’re using.
>
> I was referring to what you felt about 1-Flag and your personal experiences from which came your observations. I apparently have been more fortunate in that regard and thus have a positive viewpoint on the gametype.

You do have to admit the gametype drags on longer than others, if the teams are unbalanced. That isn’t an opinion. Or is everything opinion these days. Is the word opinion a nuclear word that we drop in forums these days. If so, why post a reply? What is the point?

For teams of randoms, being forced to grind through the 3rd and 4th round of a lost 1-Flag game is a lame gameplay experience. If you were to take yourself out of your personal situation, and think, “what would I be doing if I came up against 1-Flag, playing on my own, after buying $40 CEA, and wanting to play the new maps,” you might have to agree or at least not shrug. Or is the point to just put me in my place for making a suggestion. I didn’t realize 1-Flag was the foundation on which all of Halo Anniversary rests. Who knew?

> > > > Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.
> > >
> > > The points I made in the OP aren’t opinion. They’re observations based on what happens all too often in a 1-Flag game.
> > >
> > > Some of you posters use “opinion” and “speculation” in ways that don’t fit what you’re talking about. Maybe read the OP first, or learn what the terms are that you’re using.
> >
> > I was referring to what you felt about 1-Flag and your personal experiences from which came your observations. I apparently have been more fortunate in that regard and thus have a positive viewpoint on the gametype.
>
> You do have to admit the gametype drags on longer than others, if the teams are unbalanced. That isn’t an opinion. Or is everything opinion these days. Is the word opinion a nuclear word that we drop in forums these days. If so, why post a reply? What is the point?
>
> For teams of randoms, being forced to grind through the 3rd and 4th round of a lost 1-Flag game is a lame gameplay experience. If you were to take yourself out of your personal situation, and think, “what would I be doing if I came up against 1-Flag, playing on my own, after buying $40 CEA, and wanting to play the new maps,” you might have to agree or at least not shrug. Or is the point to just put me in my place for making a suggestion. I didn’t realize 1-Flag was the foundation on which all of Halo Anniversary rests. Who knew?

Is not opinion ones person perspective? You have your own and I have my own, they are different.

And I bother posting because I simply had a different opinion than you. In such discussions about things experienced by everybody in the community, everybody should contribute rather than take upon your viewpoint. I agree to a degree with your points, but regardless I still enjoy it very much so on certain maps. Simple as that, no need to cast mild accusations around.

> > > > > Your opinion -shrug- but I find it amazing on certain maps.
> > > >
> > > > The points I made in the OP aren’t opinion. They’re observations based on what happens all too often in a 1-Flag game.
> > > >
> > > > Some of you posters use “opinion” and “speculation” in ways that don’t fit what you’re talking about. Maybe read the OP first, or learn what the terms are that you’re using.
> > >
> > > I was referring to what you felt about 1-Flag and your personal experiences from which came your observations. I apparently have been more fortunate in that regard and thus have a positive viewpoint on the gametype.
> >
> > You do have to admit the gametype drags on longer than others, if the teams are unbalanced. That isn’t an opinion. Or is everything opinion these days. Is the word opinion a nuclear word that we drop in forums these days. If so, why post a reply? What is the point?
> >
> > For teams of randoms, being forced to grind through the 3rd and 4th round of a lost 1-Flag game is a lame gameplay experience. If you were to take yourself out of your personal situation, and think, “what would I be doing if I came up against 1-Flag, playing on my own, after buying $40 CEA, and wanting to play the new maps,” you might have to agree or at least not shrug. Or is the point to just put me in my place for making a suggestion. I didn’t realize 1-Flag was the foundation on which all of Halo Anniversary rests. Who knew?
>
> Is not opinion ones person perspective? You have your own and I have my own, they are different.
>
> And I bother posting because I simply had a different opinion than you. In such discussions about things experienced by everybody in the community, everybody should contribute rather than take upon your viewpoint. I agree to a degree with your points, but regardless I still enjoy it very much so on certain maps. Simple as that, no need to cast mild accusations around.

The only accusation I made was using language loosely, which I think was fair, because “it’s only your opinion” is ruining the forums with oneupmanship. If you agreed with something I said, you could have led with that, but I know it’s not cool to give an inch to anyone who posts a suggestion.

You can see from the replies I’ve gotten, not one poster has lowered himself to agree with me on any point. You’d think I was saying to take out Team Slayer. I will say the forums show a degree of cluelessness, because 1-Flag simply doesn’t matter as a playlist. It is not a big deal to lose. I can’t remember having to play it when Reach came out, and now 343 weights it in the Anniversary playlists? I’ve played it 3 times in probably 6-7 games since getting CEA. 2-Flag is a fine, and faster, alternative, but of course you can’t agree with that either, what with the special undefined quality that 1-Flag brings to your life as a Halo player. 343 can 1-Flag it all they want.

Well, you were right about me not seeing everything in the OP.

But wanting a gametype removed from matchmaking because it’s apparently popular is an irrelevant argument.

> > Not sure if troll…
>
> 2-Flag does all the gameplay at once. It’s faster, more streamlined.

I disagree as it’s usually the opposite with me with 2-flag and 1-flag. I find 1-Flag much more faster as its not a mix between defending and being offensive to the other base.

1-Flag is fine. But it’s usually played with Anniversary settings, which make all gametypes not-fun.

Also Hang-Em-High is just beyond stupid with Flags. It’s so pointless, especially with Anniversary settings.