343 should merge all of the armor cores in halo infinite and give us 1 spartan to customize just like in the older halo games and let us mix and match armor pieces everything down to what under. Suit we want to use. And just call it spartan core that way it leaves open the possibility to add playable elites(elite core) if 343 ever decides to listen to its fan base
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Good ideas.
But I like the different armour cores - it allows for very different takes on the Spartans.
And if your armour cores are different shapes then it’s not so easy to just transfer bits across. Gaps and clipping etc. I imagine it would be a lot of work to tailor each one for each core.
But they are working on it. Just not necessarily as quickly as they were (given layoffs / more urgent problems).
As for Elites. There have been some mega-threads here. Bottom line is that it’s likely not worth the time / effort given the relatively small (albeit passionate) fan base for playing Elites I think the greater part of the fan base would prefer they directed time into other content (maps / weapons / spartan armour / game types etc).
I always thought the best chance for playing Elites was if the Arbiter came to campaign DLC. That would justify the time and effort re: models, animations, sounds, etc. But that dream has definitely been put on the back burner.
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Probably not going to happen, but wouldn’t be against it. The work they’d have to do to make everything customizable probably isn’t worth the effort to them. But hey if they make all helmets, shoulders and chest pieces cross core then it would be fine.
Realistically I want cross core for:
Visors (I think that’s pretty much done)
Shoulders
Chest piece
Knees
Hands
Coatings (we shouldn’t have to buy colors to begin with, but this isn’t that thread. However we shouldn’t have to get multiple coatings for the same colors just for different cores)
A unified armor core would more or less require remodeling the majority of the cores to have the same proportions, bulk, and seams. Example, say you want the Rakshasa legs on the Mark VII body in the way you might have the ODST legs combined with the Halo Online torso armor in Halo 3 MCC. That simply doesn’t work in Infinite, as Rakshasa’s legs don’t join the body in the same way that Mark VII’s do.
Even if they did match up, you’d get very unsightly texture and design differences between the various cores (which is a problem 3MCC has and is the reason why that game has the some of the ugliest spartans in the series). Eaglestrike has a hammered metal, pipes and straps steampunk look, while Rakshasa is more or less a glorified ODST bdu with a bunch of its armor pieces being held together or supported by lace and duct tape, and then Mark VB and Mark VII (and the upcoming Mirage) have the more typical clean mjolnir look. I absolutely think as many individual armor pieces and attachments should be made cross core as possible, but mixing the base armor suits themselves would require a lot of work to make thing look worse than they currently are.
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No. The fans dont want any of the fractured cores canon. Having them all on one core makes the samurai, eagle strike and then the IIRC core canon. They use the cores to express fun designs without worrying about it effecting the main universe.
Maybe the Mark V, Rakshasha and Mirage core can, but i sense 343i want to make different types of Spartan IV’S than just operation fireteams.
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They could combine all cannon cores together and all non cannon. Just have two. Cannon and non cannon, done.
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woulda been nice to have some campaign unique armor pieces… i miss playing elites too… vibrant colors… a reason to use the flashlight… get weird with level design… a boy can rehash other boys and girls dreams
I think we should have a total of like 20 cores, and for each one we can build it from the ground up however we want, mixing and matching. It would be nice to setup multiple suits of Mark V(B) for example.
dont think he was talking about them being canon just want a customization system without stupid limits.
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the way armor cores are suck, they should’ve know from the start that tons of people would want to use armor between all the cores and made it so nothing would clip majorly! swapping between the actual armor from the cores is definitely not going to happen but i think they can make certain pieces work on different cores like helmets, shoulders, and some chest pieces that are small and look slaped on already.
The downside of that is that the cores would all be a similar, if not identical, shape.
Which would tend to make them redundant.
Which is what they are working on.
But it’s a fair bit of work to make sure the piece works with all other bits of the armour.
And it’s not as if they have other stuff to do.
I think most people would prefer more maps etc.
And you only have to look at the torrent of complaints that follow any piece that clips or is off centre to know how important it is to get things right.
Imma say it again like i said in a previous post
“Cores are just Glorified Legs + undersuits + arms. they’re just themed versions of that. in turn it should still be 100% cross core”
In this case, it should be 1 core
Who cares? Those fans need to cope. Also if you consider multiplayer canon, then you’ll never be happy because multiplayer was never meant to be canon and it’s something I hope 343 removes from future titles after infinite.
I couldn’t agree more. The core system was stupid to begin with and only exists to force microtransactions onto players who want to customize their spartans. At least 5’s MTX were fully optional, everything outside voices of war could be unlocked via gameplay.
mcc doesn’t seem to have a problem with it.
honestly i think it’s easier than we’re lead to believe, they put in the work to add all of it in how much could it possibly take to slap tenrai shoulder on the mk.7 core, or switch helmets i would really love to do that.
yes, no doubt, i just think they can spare the people designing the crap ton of armor so they can adjust the core system so it can do more cross core armor. there’s already so much armor i doubt someone been on this game to have everything unlocked.
if they could also make it so the shop has everything available maybe even earnable credits out of bp’s they could be on their way to make infinite somewhat decent and people have more of a reason to play. honestly i don’t see much reason playing this kind of game where it locks most of its rewards to stupid timed events and stupid high paywalls.
The thing is that I sort of like is that their are multiple “loadouts” of armor you can tinker with and switch too. like how fortnite has those outfit sets you can have where you can switch to and fro real quick (ex your Drift loadout to your Skull king loadout. but how infinite has them is a trash fire with forcing specific armor pieces together
Man, lemme have an Imperial Japanese Mad Max armor (Tenrai + insert season 2 core name here). Like they did it with MCC in Season 8 with the Ancient Greek armor, Norse armor, and Medevial armor. if your gonna give us a ton of wacky cosmetics, double down and let us use whatever we want. I remember they said “we don’t want clipping” yet if you pay attention to some armor pieces (like some of Tenrai’s shoulders) they float. imo, that’s a form of clipping lol. we call that in the gamer space “unpolished”
They should have only introduced “cores” if they were to separate species that would be allowed to multiplayer if they ever do add Elites, Brutes, ect. to the game. That’s the only point where I feel cores have a purpose since you obviously wouldn’t mix and match gear meant for a specie that has a completely different body type to that of the Spartans.
Mind you, that doesn’t mean themed armor for specific races couldn’t be a thing. Covenant/Elite themed armor for humans I would totally be down for for instance. I’ve been wanting this since Halo 3.
But when it comes to Spartans armor, they should have tried their best to make a single Human core that allows every single piece to work well to an extent ( maybe make variations that work on more bulkier and less bulkier set ups for specific pieces ) and kept it at that.
You’ll have to forgive me. I don’t play MCC. How different are the core shapes there?
Do you have the same clash as say, Eagle Strike vs Rakshasa?
Really?
Taking a piece and making sure it works with every other combination of armour?
That’s fair enough.
But there is also a heap of background stuff to do to allow it to happen.
Maybe that’s just as much as a hold up as the actual artists?
But fingers crossed. 343 appear to have got themselves for 2023. Waiting for the roadmap of course… but the leaks are oh-so promising.
Hopefully they’ve got the cross-core transfers back underway as well!
I guess I’m lucky. I’m more about just playing for fun.
I do like the Rakshasa though. It’s probably the first armour in Infinite that’s really got me interested in customising my Spartan.
And I’m at a stage of life where I can just MTX what grabs me.
pretty wildly different, you got knights, gladiators, and viking armor for halo 3 and they started adding more armor for H2A also pretty crazy looking.
dude, i don’t gotta be a game dev to know that crap is just slaped on
infinites a pretty basic halo game just with less stuff, still not very many game modes, campaign was a slog for me, over all gameplay is pretty boring to me as well, so the only other reason would just be play for rewards. which they have plenty of, it just sucks how the whole system works so i cant even have fun customizing My spartan! My gaming life doesn’t revolve around halo, i’ve been playing tons of other fun games but i still just wanna throw my thoughts out there on infinite.
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So in 3 MCC, everything shares the same base undersuit. Every piece of armor is then added on top of that, and so everything has to conform to said undersuit. This can looks screwy; in order to get the general look SPI armor is supposed to have, the Mirage chest plate had to be puffed out in some ways and ends up making your spartan look obese. Same goes for changing the texutre and shaping of the undersuit itself. To replicate, say, Rakshasa having that baggy and strap covered look, you’d have to have whatever chunk of armor your making completely hide the original undersuit. This can also look goofy. The ODST legs in 3 MCC, for example, are a bit thicker than any of the others since they include part of the ODST undersuit and end up making your spartan look like he put on an extra pair of pants when put with the non-ODST torsos,