Im sorry but lets be real here. The 1-50 was the most corrupt, illogical, senseless, cheating, combative piece of junk ranking system that ever crossed the gaming spectrum. It was so exploitable that everyone and their grandmother could get a 50 in it. There was so must deranking and boosting that it killed whatever merit the system had if any. All of the desperate attempts to obtain a medal that was not worth anything in the grand scheme of things was laughable at best and made many other players suffer through their tyrannical ways.
The 1-50 system does not need to return. It was a failure. You dont need a number to express your superiority over another player. A number is not needed to have fun. A number is not needed to encourage winning. A number is not needed for longtime enjoyment. I am sorry but it is my opinion.
> Im sorry but lets be real here. The 1-50 was the most corrupt, illogical, senseless, cheating, combative piece of junk ranking system that ever crossed the gaming spectrum. It was so exploitable that everyone and their grandmother could get a 50 in it. There was so must deranking and boosting that it killed whatever merit the system had if any. All of the desperate attempts to obtain a medal that was not worth anything in the grand scheme of things was laughable at best and made many other players suffer through their tyrannical ways.
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> The 1-50 system does not need to return. It was a failure. You dont need a number to express your superiority over another player. <mark>A number is not needed to have fun. A number is not needed to encourage winning. A number is not needed for longtime enjoyment. I am sorry but it is my opinion.</mark>
ok,now i do respect your opinion,but in fact for some people a number is needed to have fun,and for some people a number is needed to encourage winning and the same thing for longtime enjoyment
the 1-50 ranking system kept me playing halo 2 for 3 years and halo 3 for 3 years,im sure i would not have played the games so long without the 1-50 ranking system
and there are exactly the same amount of people boosting in halo 3 and in reach,splash damage anyone?
> your opinion is wrong… at least a majority of games were matched up equally unlike reach.
First of all, an opinion can’t be wrong, it’s opinion not fact. Secondly, 1-50 was flawed, corrupt and utterly worthless, the only ones who fail to acknowledge that are the ones who bought/boosted a 50 and want to do it again, since they could never get a good rank in Arena, or earn a true rank.
Last but not least, 1-50 has nothing to do with matchmaking or equal matches, it comes down to true skill, not visible rank and ranking system. Reach doesn’t use true skill like Halo 3 did, for regular MM, only arena uses it somewhat good and not even much there, something you would know if you’ve done your homework.
If Halo Reach had dedicated servers, true skill could be very strict and yet find matches faster, but now it’s p2p and p2p is crap hence bungie decided to skip on true skill to lower MM times. Still, they’re very high and matches are even worse.
Lesson to be learned:
To have a good MM system that is fast and manages to get equal teams matched up, a game needs dedicated servers these days. No p2p game manages to do that now, that’s a fact.
i couldnt get a 50 either but i still love the 1-50 system. who cares if people boost it just means they will be easy to beat when they buy their 50. for those that dont want it just play social than.
> Im sorry but lets be real here. The 1-50 was the most corrupt, illogical, senseless, cheating, combative piece of junk ranking system that ever crossed the gaming spectrum. It was so exploitable that everyone and their grandmother could get a 50 in it. There was so must deranking and boosting that it killed whatever merit the system had if any. All of the desperate attempts to obtain a medal that was not worth anything in the grand scheme of things was laughable at best and made many other players suffer through their tyrannical ways.
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> The 1-50 system does not need to return. It was a failure. You dont need a number to express your superiority over another player. A number is not needed to have fun. A number is not needed to encourage winning. A number is not needed for longtime enjoyment. I am sorry but it is my opinion.
I disagree completely and you must be a casual gamer ? cause if you were actually good at halo or decent you wouldn’t make such a comment and also the 1-50 ranking system kept players playing and kid if they did bring it back there is such a thing called social playlist so go play those and shut your mouth lol
ps i bet you were like a solid 20 and couldn’t lvl up cause you were a bk lol
> 1-50 has nothing to do with matchmaking or equal matches, it comes down to true skill, not visible rank and ranking system.
Some people want their true skill to be associated with their rank. It doesn’t have to be a numerical system although it was nice. Some of those reasons are for a sense of accomplishment, to brag(let’s face it; people will do that), and it gives you a quick idea of how good your teammates or opponents are. It also gives you an incentive to play. Yes, I know there are other ways to give someone an incentive to play, but that is just one way of doing it.
First of all. Your opinion is your own and is neither right nor wrong. But, to say that people don’t need a number for fun is just being blatantly idiodic. Everyone has a different idea of fun. Personally I like having something to work towards and show off once it is acheived. Why the hell not. That is my idea of fun
Secondly. Any ranking/pregression/cR system will be abused. Reach is just as abused as Halo 3 was, but for different reasons. Team killing and modded controllers are just as big if not bigger in Reach than Halo 3.
Boosting isn’t a big deal, how does it affect you if someone got his 50 in 40 games or whatever.
Deranking is a bit of a big deal, but it is just as relevant to Reach as it is to Halo 3. Deranking compared to afk cR boosting.
As said before. Why can’t we have a set of ranked and social playlists. Keep the rank separate to the social play lists. Even number of playlists in each. Also the ranking system doesn’t have to be 1-50, but something similar. Reach had too many flaws being uncapped. So it still needs a cap, the ability to de rank, be based on w/l as the majority.
Why do you want a game that shows how much spare time you have and not a game that gives you the added option of showing how much skill you have.
I was a 50 in Halo 3, legitimately earned and I still play on it. I have played something like 20 games of Reach and my rating is like 1650 or something. So Grumble, what you just said does not apply most of the time. Reach is in no way as competitive as the 1-50 system was. That is why people don’t okay it anymore.
I go +20 each game in Reach. As a new comer, its boring. So I revert back to H3 just because I have some competition there.
> First of all. Your opinion is your own and is neither right nor wrong. But, to say that people don’t need a number for fun is just being blatantly idiodic. Everyone has a different idea of fun. Personally I like having something to work towards and show off once it is acheived. Why the hell not. That is my idea of fun
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> Secondly. Any ranking/pregression/cR system will be abused. Reach is just as abused as Halo 3 was, but for different reasons. Team killing and modded controllers are just as big if not bigger in Reach than Halo 3.
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> Boosting isn’t a big deal, how does it affect you if someone got his 50 in 40 games or whatever.
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> Deranking is a bit of a big deal, but it is just as relevant to Reach as it is to Halo 3. Deranking compared to afk cR boosting.
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> As said before. Why can’t we have a set of ranked and social playlists. Keep the rank separate to the social play lists. Even number of playlists in each. Also the ranking system doesn’t have to be 1-50, but something similar. Reach had too many flaws being uncapped. So it still needs a cap, the ability to de rank, be based on w/l as the majority.
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> Why do you want a game that shows how much spare time you have and not a game that gives you the added option of showing how much skill you have.
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> I was a 50 in Halo 3, legitimately earned and I still play on it. I have played something like 20 games of Reach and my rating is like 1650 or something. So Grumble, what you just said does not apply most of the time. Reach is in no way as competitive as the 1-50 system was. That is why people don’t okay it anymore.
> I go +20 each game in Reach. As a new comer, its boring. So I revert back to H3 just because I have some competition there.
Agreed the 1-50 ranking system keeps competition and keeps players playing and if you didnt want to play it you could play social playlist’s so there was a balance between causal gamers and competitive and it worked well
> Im sorry but lets be real here. The 1-50 was the most corrupt, illogical, senseless, cheating, combative piece of junk ranking system that ever crossed the gaming spectrum. It was so exploitable that everyone and their grandmother could get a 50 in it. There was so must deranking and boosting that it killed whatever merit the system had if any. All of the desperate attempts to obtain a medal that was not worth anything in the grand scheme of things was laughable at best and made many other players suffer through their tyrannical ways.
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> The 1-50 system does not need to return. It was a failure. You dont need a number to express your superiority over another player. A number is not needed to have fun. A number is not needed to encourage winning. A number is not needed for longtime enjoyment. I am sorry but it is my opinion.
Disagree.
Does it matter if there is a 1-50 system or a ranking system without it. Guess what? you still get stat trolled so what did removing fix? There is still superiority complexes around the forum and the game.
Fun is subjective. Your fun is not my fun. It’s as simple as that. If you can’t handle that fact then I really don’t know what to say to you.
It’s funny because you have this superiority complex about how the ranking system as fine as is, but in reality its even worse. Even in arena I can get Bronze on my team and match TOP onyx players. How is that even working right.
I’m not going to call you bad, I’m above that. but you really do need to do more research before you spout off ignorance.
Form an educated opinion next time and maybe then I’l listen.
> Im sorry but lets be real here. The 1-50 was the most corrupt, illogical, senseless, cheating, combative piece of junk ranking system that ever crossed the gaming spectrum. It was so exploitable that everyone and their grandmother could get a 50 in it. There was so must deranking and boosting that it killed whatever merit the system had if any. All of the desperate attempts to obtain a medal that was not worth anything in the grand scheme of things was laughable at best and made many other players suffer through their tyrannical ways.
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> The 1-50 system does not need to return. It was a failure. You dont need a number to express your superiority over another player. A number is not needed to have fun. A number is not needed to encourage winning. A number is not needed for longtime enjoyment. I am sorry but it is my opinion.
> I was a 50 in Halo 3, legitimately earned and I still play on it. I have played something like 20 games of Reach and my rating is like 1650 or something. So Grumble, what you just said does not apply most of the time. Reach is in no way as competitive as the 1-50 system was. That is why people don’t okay it anymore.
> I go +20 each game in Reach. As a new comer, its boring. So I revert back to H3 just because I have some competition there.
Just remind me wise one, how does this have anything to do with what I said?
That true skill and visible rank are different things, they are and you know that.
It is also true that anyone could get a 50 in Halo 3 and that the ranking system was pointless due to the fact that it was so heavily abused.
It is also a fact that most of those who got an easy 50 want to keep teh old system so they can get an easy 50 again, while a truly competitive player who cares for equal matches, would be in favour of a new and improved system. Or really, if you’re a legit 50, do you want 85% of the population to be 50s too?
Do you want to have teammates who have -15, -20 stats in ranked despite a 50?
No, you don’t, not if your a true 50 or even a true 10+.
If people preferred the old Halo 3 system they would, like you, return to it, yet Hal 3 has lower population then Reach. If the Halo 3 ranking system would have been popular a all, other games with similar ranking system would have been popular. Tell me if I’m wrong here, but I fail to see any game except Halo 3 on the top 20 xbox live activity list that has such a system, in fact all top games has only the “horrible” Reach style rank? And people love them?
Maybe the problem is not the ranking system per se, but the lack of true skill?
The fact that even if you had a 50 in Arena, you’ll still be facing 10, 5 and 33s?
The fact that other games got working true skill and hence there is no need for a visible skill, since a good player is known by name, a good player plays good and does not need past performances to prove it. One might even say that the good players teams up and faces other good players, clan battles, without any ranking system at all except stats kept on other sites.
> > do you want 85% of the population to be 50s too?
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> Roughly 5% of H3’s population were 50s.
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> The math was done.
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> Im going to assume if I copy paste your GT over to Bnet you’re either a colonel or a brig in H3.
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> Stop being butthurt man. H3 has been dead for years.
The best ranking system was Halo 2’s minus the hackers and the people that modded but other then that it was the most balanced cause you can go play ranked playlists or social so it kept a good balance
The only people who don’t like that system are people who aren’t good at the game. It separates us, the people who play on our level 50s away from all of you randoms who play the game and don’t even know how to shoot until 1 minute until in a game when they finally figure it out… The Reach matchmaking system is limited and if you think that this system is fine, then I will be praying for you to leave that mental institution you’re assigned to as soon as possible and feel better.
I’m also speaking for myself. :’( But they should have the 1-50 rank system back.