1-50 created monsters. Why wouldn't it again?

Games Other Halo
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I can’t say 1-50 is bad, nor good. Yet you can’t deny what I’m about to say.

1-50 created monsters in some of us. The idea was nice, pitting people of equal goodness. Like “bad” would go against “bad”. And so on. Yet it became more a race to the top. Which if done right could again be a good thing. Either way.

However this is nowhere near what happened in Halo 2. Halo 2 became a race to the top, Yet a race where some players decided to shoot others in the leg and use steroids. It wasn’t pitting people against each other equally anymore then making people be as unfair and unequal as they could be.

How many of you ever saw a level 50 that was GOOD, I mean really, really, really good to the point you couldn’t even kill them. How many of those 40’s and so on were not boosting, standbying, hacking, glitching or using any other unfair methods?

Even if there was a few honest, well played 50’s you may have known it didn’t erase the fact people CHEATED and broke this system.

Entitlement

Sadly games like COD and such create this notion that rank automatically makes you a god. That a level 50, regardless of how he gets it is automatically “better” and deserving of praise and glory. It wasn’t a way of balancing the game, To make you want to win because it’s fun to. Yet instead find ways to win by either A-Play by the rules and HOPE you don’t get B-Play by your rules, Cheat, Hack, Anyway to get that “NUMBER”.

Sadly games sometimes are less about what you do at the moment, Instead what you have done. You see a 50 in Halo 2, a General in Halo 3, or a Legend in Halo Reach And some of you, sadly, look up to them. You think they are awesome, The best Yet in reality most of them have been beaten by lower ranks, many times.

Is 1-50 bad, Or good ?

Sadly the way it was in Halo 2 was bad. However if Halo4,5,6, could eliminate that notion to cheat and play unfairly, Then it could be good. If it can do what it was supposed to do, instead of making people crazy and turning them into a-holes.

Sadly I don’t see that happening. It may have seemed like it was amazing in Halo 2, and fair. Yet I wonder how many of you remember being standbyed, Hacked, People boosting, super jumping, dummying, and the 1000 other glitches. I mean BXR and such were pretty small, but still cheats.

Ranks don’t do much for games. Maybe in Star Craft or Age of Empires or some grand stradegy games or such, Maybe. Maybe in Music, Sports, W/E. And a few games. However Halo, FPS games. Ranks are yet to be mastered. Until cheating, -Yoinks!-, and unfair play is stopped. Ranking just promotes unfair play.

So I ask you…

If it created monsters in Halo 2…

What makes you think it wont again in Halo 4?

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People are monsters to begin with.

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Or you can just, y’know, report these so called monsters.

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I guess we are all monsters. Yet doesn’t mean we can’t be on the same level. With just true skill and strategy being the victor.

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/facepalm

H2 did not have the anti-cheating measures engineered that the other Halo games had it was the first Halo game to implement the ban-hammer. Why do you think nobody hostboots in Halo 3+Reach? Because, new measures were taken to make sure the “hardcore” cheating methods such as host-booting,standbying, and modding Xbox’s/controllers could not be done easily again. The problem was always the hardcore cheating which could be done easily in the early days because XBL and Halo online infrastructure were very new and easily exploited. Elitism is not a viable reason for removing a feature, elitism exists in every video game/competitive environment ever created. As long as someone can achieve a “high score” or achieve “Rewards” for playtime and actions other players dont achieve or havent achieved, there will be elitism and E-peen bragging. Tis’ is the way of Life.

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People are jerks in general and seeings it the internet, They gnf about how you feel or anyone else for that matter. It seems to be you are trying to pin this down on a ranking system… Yes they had flaws, Everything does. Removing a ranking system did not remove stat trolling, most people will just look at your k.d and determine that. So that reason is already invalid.

I want a ranking system that works. That is difficult to obtain.

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I like Halo with the 1-50 ranking system and without it. If they brought it back for Halo 4 people would immediately go back to the way they played in Halo 3. They would boost, ask for money to help boost, make one months to get to 50 to sell it and also derank in order to play less skilled players again. These things don’t happen in Reach and won’t happen in Halo 4 because there is no point because there isn’t a 1-50 rank system and I’m thankful for that. Not to mention I don’t have to worry about helping all my friends earn their 50s so they can feel special because they’re the max rank.

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My point. 1-50 as I said woulda, coulda, shoulda worked. Yet it never does.

I guess you can never take away that “I’m better then you because I’m 50…” notion. Yet you can make it work. I never see it working. 50’s are never automaticlly better, 1-5’s aren’t always terrible.

It’s a hard system to really measure. I mean what makes a player good. K/D? Wins? Flag Caps? What weapon(s) they use. What playlists they play.

I mean some people think Winning>Everything. And K/D, Assists and such don’t matter. Others think K/D is the only important thing. Some believe a number of things.

Like for example. Lets say it’s a 4 v 4 match.

Player A (Red)- Is on a winning team. Yet he only has 10 kills, and 10 deaths.

Player B (Blue) Is on a losing team. Yet he has 25 kills and 10 deaths.

Some people think “A” should rank up higher. Better team work. He won. End of story.

Yet some people think “B” should rank up higher, Because he was better, did good, played well.

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> I like Halo with the 1-50 ranking system and without it. If they brought it back for Halo 4 people would immediately go back to the way they played in Halo 3. They would boost, ask for money to help boost, make one months to get to 50 to sell it and also derank in order to play less skilled players again. These things don’t happen in Reach and won’t happen in Halo 4 because there is no point because there isn’t a 1-50 rank system and I’m thankful for that. Not to mention I don’t have to worry about helping all my friends earn their 50s so they can feel special because they’re the max rank.

That’s because of the way halo 3 used trueskill. It was way to easy to abuse the system like that.

Dude I match skill less players all day in reach. Its chaos right now. So I hate to say this, but you have no clue really.

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> My point. 1-50 as I said woulda, coulda, shoulda worked. Yet it never does.
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> I guess you can never take away that “I’m better then you because I’m 50…” notion. Yet you can make it work. I never see it working. 50’s are never automaticlly better, 1-5’s aren’t always terrible.
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> It’s a hard system to really measure. I mean what makes a player good. K/D? Wins? Flag Caps? What weapon(s) they use. What playlists they play.
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> I mean some people think Winning>Everything. And K/D, Assists and such don’t matter. Others think K/D is the only important thing. Some believe a number of things.
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> Like for example. Lets say it’s a 4 v 4 match.
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> Player A (Red)- Is on a winning team. Yet he only has 10 kills, and 10 deaths.
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> Player B (Blue) Is on a losing team. Yet he has 25 kills and 10 deaths.
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> Some people think “A” should rank up higher. Better team work. He won. End of story.
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> Yet some people think “B” should rank up higher, Because he was better, did good, played well.

To the bold

"share victory, Share defeat.

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> > I like Halo with the 1-50 ranking system and without it. If they brought it back for Halo 4 people would immediately go back to the way they played in Halo 3. They would boost, ask for money to help boost, make one months to get to 50 to sell it and also derank in order to play less skilled players again. These things don’t happen in Reach and won’t happen in Halo 4 because there is no point because there isn’t a 1-50 rank system and I’m thankful for that. Not to mention I don’t have to worry about helping all my friends earn their 50s so they can feel special because they’re the max rank.
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> That’s because of the way halo 3 used trueskill. It was way too easy to abuse the system like that.
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> Dude I match skill less players all day in reach. Its chaos right now. So I hate to say this, but you have no clue really.

You didn’t hate to say that, you’re just trying to be douchey. I really don’t like you. You play people you consider skill-less so I have no clue? If you were nicer to people you could make friends.

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> > > I like Halo with the 1-50 ranking system and without it. If they brought it back for Halo 4 people would immediately go back to the way they played in Halo 3. They would boost, ask for money to help boost, make one months to get to 50 to sell it and also derank in order to play less skilled players again. These things don’t happen in Reach and won’t happen in Halo 4 because there is no point because there isn’t a 1-50 rank system and I’m thankful for that. Not to mention I don’t have to worry about helping all my friends earn their 50s so they can feel special because they’re the max rank.
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> > That’s because of the way halo 3 used trueskill. It was way too easy to abuse the system like that.
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> > Dude I match skill less players all day in reach. Its chaos right now. So I hate to say this, but you have no clue really.
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> You didn’t hate to say that, you’re just trying to be douchey. I really don’t like you. You play people you consider skill-less so I have no clue? If you were nicer to people you could make friends.

he’s not being “douchey” he’s being real. everything in reach feels like social slayer, and it makes it boring. I played halo 3 for its entire life span. I play reach when people are at my house that want to play it. all they need to do is step up the ban hammer. they catch people in halo 3 that ddos somehow, so just double up on whatever it is that does it.

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And I agree, 1-50 did create monsters. I was one of them. Countless noobs and badkids alike have screamed aim bot after games. I’m the reason you never got higher than a 49.

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I’m actually looking forward to Halo on the Xbox 720, sounds like it’ll be even harder to cheat in any way.

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> > > > I like Halo with the 1-50 ranking system and without it. If they brought it back for Halo 4 people would immediately go back to the way they played in Halo 3. They would boost, ask for money to help boost, make one months to get to 50 to sell it and also derank in order to play less skilled players again. These things don’t happen in Reach and won’t happen in Halo 4 because there is no point because there isn’t a 1-50 rank system and I’m thankful for that. Not to mention I don’t have to worry about helping all my friends earn their 50s so they can feel special because they’re the max rank.
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> > > That’s because of the way halo 3 used trueskill. It was way too easy to abuse the system like that.
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> > > Dude I match skill less players all day in reach. Its chaos right now. So I hate to say this, but you have no clue really.
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> > You didn’t hate to say that, you’re just trying to be douchey. I really don’t like you. You play people you consider skill-less so I have no clue? If you were nicer to people you could make friends.
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> he’s not being “douchey” he’s being real. everything in reach feels like social slayer, and it makes it boring. I played halo 3 for its entire life span. I play reach when people are at my house that want to play it. all they need to do is step up the ban hammer. they catch people in halo 3 that ddos somehow, so just double up on whatever it is that does it.

If you guys are bored and are really that competitive that you must play skill players every game in order to have fun then search MLG and arena. Play in a gamebattles tournament. Or better yet find things in the real world that challenge you and help you feel accomplished.

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Kids will be Kids

Jerks will be Jerks

1-50 was Epic and 12x better the what Reach gave us .

Have a nice Day

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1-50 is more competitive than casual Halo but it’s no more competitive than bowling or playing sports with friends. A real competition is something like the world cup or the show Chopped where chefs cook for an hour to win 10,000 dollars.
People, stop freaking out because of a little number next to your gamer tag, ranked playlists are fun and there is always social available if you want to play something else.

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I see your point but you are forgetting a couple things. People cheat regardless of a 1-50 ranking system. If you have been on CoD 4 recently, you know what I am talking about. Even on Halo:Reach with no 1-50 ranking system, there is arena. And in arena there are still cheaters. You are also only focusing on the negatives of a ranking system, when in reality the pros outweigh the cons. And the proof of that is the longevity and huge populations of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

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> /facepalm
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> H2 did not have the anti-cheating measures engineered that the other Halo games had it was the first Halo game to implement the ban-hammer. Why do you think nobody hostboots in Halo 3+Reach? Because, new measures were taken to make sure the “hardcore” cheating methods such as host-booting,standbying, and modding Xbox’s/controllers could not be done easily again. The problem was always the hardcore cheating which could be done easily in the early days because XBL and Halo online infrastructure were very new and easily exploited. Elitism is not a viable reason for removing a feature, elitism exists in every video game/competitive environment ever created. As long as someone can achieve a “high score” or achieve “Rewards” for playtime and actions other players dont achieve or havent achieved, there will be elitism and E-peen bragging. Tis’ is the way of Life.

Booting and standbying still works in Halo3. And no one got banned who used this :confused:

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Your forgetting it also makes people want to work as a team, so your whole team can rank up. It did create some monsters, but it also forged some alliances aswell.